It appears that from images of the wreckage that both flaps and slats were extended, negating the “PNF inadvertently raised the flaps instead of the gear” theory. Also, we heard from an AA crew that raised the flaps instead of the gear after setting up the same conditions of Air India and using normal thrust, the aircraft flew away. They then did it after a V1 cut, and it flew away fine again.
There should be good data, we’ll know what happened in due course.
OMG. No armchair quarterback comments from the peanut gallery for nearly 12h… What happenend?
Would depend on thrust/weight ratio and atmospheric parameters.
Elevation of airport is low, probably warm.
Aircraft presumably heavy as headed for England.
One runway of 11,500 feet length, taxiway along takeoff end where terminals are, with possible entrances to runway. A busy airport.
One claim is that crew did not use full runway for takeoff.
Hit building 2km from liftoff end of runway.
The aircraft back taxied and used the full length. The attention hogs who capitalize on tragedy and can’t even be bothered to understand ADSB limitations got that wrong too.
Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to mark where runway is and impacted building is, on an aerial photo.
Certainly lots of talk - supposed aviation expert Dunlap makes several logical and operational mistakes in What will investigators be looking for in Air India crash data? | The Seattle Times.
Was the RAT deployed? I’ve seen a couple pictures where people were speculating that it was. That would support a total loss of thrust theory.
Ditto, there’s never been a post I’ve ever seen from Authur Foyt which has been anything but an exhibit of the dregs of humanity.
I’ve qualified on four different jets and never seen anything like that on a pre-takeoff checklist for any of them. Nor on any primary trainer I’ve flown, either.
I guess I had a better instructor, a WW2 P-51 pilot who re-upped for Korea and was the maintenance check pilot for the F-51s. Margaret Ringenberg (“The Greatest Generation” - Brokaw) was a dear friend and she taught the same.
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