Poll: Do You Fly With An Angle Of Attack Indicator?

Bob Deford spent 28 years of his retirement building a replica Spitfire and the result was spectacular.


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://www.avweb.com/polls-quizzes/poll-do-you-fly-with-an-angle-of-attack-indicator

I have taught in many planes with aoa - both factory and aftermarket. I have found that the aftermarket ones are rarely calibrated correctly which makes them just extra weight.

When calibrated with an aural guidance mode, they do work well. So does simply learning attitude flying…

sj

AoA indicators are handy references, but should be calibrated as Steve wrote. Usually this is a straightforward process involving a series of stalls and incipient stalls. I’ll second Steve’s attitude flying statement. The AoA indicators in the aircraft I use to instruct have an aural ‘beeping’ sound that increases in frequency as you approach the critical angle of attack. That’s a nice training tool when coupled with feeling the onset of air separation/burble and mushy controls.

I had an AOA indicator installed in my airplane about 16 years ago. It took some effort to calibrate it. But although it’s only a 172 variant (P172D), the difference in approach and landing speeds, especially lightly loaded, is significant, compared to using “book” speeds. Unfortunately I chose one that uses a needle on its unlit display, without any aural warning, so it’s hard to see at night. But I had it installed on the top of the panel so that it’s in my line of sight, so for daytime use, it’s very helpful.

I have an AOA as part of my Aspen PFD, but I never use it: it’s too small and a bit out of the way to focus on when doing instrument approaches, and it’s derived data that I don’t really trust.

An AOA is more useful during VFR approaches, IMHO, than in instrument approaches. Instrument approaches are typically at a higher airspeed than VFR approaches, so that the AOA indicator always will show “in the green” or well above any marginal angle of attack.

Even derived data can be reasonably accurate, but you’ll have to go through the same process of calibration that is necessary with a stand alone AOA indicator—numerous stalls and incipient stalls. I don’t know enough about the Aspen set up, but I have to assume that it’s possible to electronically calibrate its AOA indicator.

Us F4 drivers lived and died by the AOA indicator/tone.

I have AOA on my Aspens. There is a calibration flight but, you do not need to stall the aircraft. Just some slow flight clean and dirty. If you have any mods like VGs or STOL kit you do fly to the horn to see what speed it triggers at.

Military, yes, GA, no.

The GFC-500 in my Cessna 180 has “Electronic Stability and Protection, ESP” and I hate it, though it would keep a less experienced pilot out of trouble.

A few years back, I took an IPC and BFR with an old buddy who’d been my instructor in the Air Force. The autopilot was a new installation and we were both confounded when I was unable to stall the aircraft or perform a steep turn. The autopilot prevented it! Having the A/P turned off did not matter. A review of the manual indicated that the circuit breaker had to be pulled to disable the ESP.

That was almost as annoying as the lane keeping function in my wife’s new car. She disabled it pretty quickly!

I find it a useless distraction from the primary inputs of airspeed, attitude, visual reference, situational awareness. What’s wrong with simple audio stall warnings as Cessnas have had for decades? Audio stall warnings don’t distract from your visual scan as does this does.

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I had never heard of an AOA indicator in civilian aircraft until the all-seeing FAA decided that everybody should buck up for one. I’m with jdd633, the existing audio stall warning doesn’t distract from your visual scan.

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