NOTAMs Back To 'Notice to Airmen'

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I gave you the nickel tour above. Read up on the Russian revolution or Maos Cultural Revolution. I dont have time to educate you.

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Let’s have a show of hands: who cares what terms some politician tell us we must use for this or that reason? NOTAMS (like long-used gender pronouns) are the same now they’ve always been, and most of us just ignored the ridiculous gender affirming name change. Nothing has really changed.

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While a controller at ORD, three female AAL pilots came over to the TRACON to take a look. They were all scheduled to fly together as the entire crew. The lady Captain told me that when ever that happens, they don’t call it the cockpit. It is for that flight called the box office. Made me blush. Right.

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The term “Air Missions” was rather silly, in that it was clearly meant to keep the acronym “NOTAM” the same while attempting to be literally gender-neutral. But what was also interesting is that “ACS” (Airman’s Certification Standards") was left alone when that could have easily been renamed “Aviator’s Certification Standards”).

But the most ridiculous thing is spending the time and tax-payer money to revert it back to the original name, when the original argument against the change in the first place was that the words didn’t matter. So either the words don’t matter and it should have just stayed as “Air Missions”, or words do matter to some people. It can’t be both ways.

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you could just say that you don’t either and it’s the herd that’s telling you to say these things.

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They shoulda used “aviators.”

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“How is it communist? How does a change from airmen to air missions fit in with a communist ideology?”

That ideology was based on ripping out existing culture and replacing it with state approved culture. This includes removing history, traditions, sand blasting religious symbols from buildings, removing statues, and even renaming entire segments of society with de-humanizing terms (like latin-x). So YES, there is a lot of similarity to soviet style communism.

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The takeaway: If the system isn’t helping pilots, air traffic controllers, or passengers, then all this arguing is just BS. BTW: Jack Nisen’s argument holds some water, but it leaks heavily.

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The English language has a long history of having formal and colloquial terms for the same thing. So let’s set aside the unfortunate etymology of “cockpit” as a place for wagering on male fighting fowl, and simply adopt “flight deck” as the gender-neutral descriptive term. Let’s also agree that the original last word in “NOTAM” was anachronistic and exclusive, and that the expense of changing it to “Air Missions”, while well-intentioned, will be at least doubled by reverting it to “Airmen”. So I suggest that if it needs to be changed, everyone should accept “Notice To Pilots”, as the more accurate name. But if the current administration is so eager to root out any waste of tax-payer money, it’s more than a little disingenuous to spend more of it on such trivia.

Also, it should be noted that there are 'way more than two gender identities, for which our centuries-old language has failed to accommodate. Statistically, everyone reading this forum has at least one extended-family member in the cohort.

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It was a waste to change it the first time, and it’s a waste to change it back. Fix the damn NOTAM system already. Changing names instead of solving problems; if there’s a better illustration of the sorry state of our federal government, I haven’t found it yet.

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As we can see, the people who are creating these division and distractions in society have done a pretty good job so far.

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“How is this not the same?” It is not the same, it is undoing previous government meddling. It is un-meddling.

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Sorry but this is dumb and a waste of our money.
I don’t really care about the name, although Notices to Air Missions being inclusive of female aviators and unmanned aircraft makes sense. To revert back to something that was dumb in the first place is complete idiocy in action. I don’t know anyone who refers to themselves as an Airman
But if we’re going to waste money we should as least change our pilot certificates to, well PIlot Certificates or Aviator Certificates, because once again nobody uses the term Airman.
Thanks DOGI, Department of Government Inefficiency for wasting tax dollars so efficiently.

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A NOTAM is a NOTAM. It long since stopped being an acronym for anything, just like VOR, TCAS, ADS-B. Just define a NOTAM as airport and airspace information for pilots. And then make that information easily accessible and understood in a timely manner.

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That’s because it’s called the “Aeronautical Information Manual.”

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I’m not convinced that history is lauding Amelia Earhart as a pioneer or pacesetter for women in aviation. Instead, I think well meaning people […]

‘Instead’ implies that one factor replaces the other. In tis case, the efforts of well meaning people augmented, but did not replace, Earhart’s efforts.

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It’s government meddling because it’s focusing on something that ultimately doesn’t matter much, instead of actually trying to fix the NOTAM system that I think we can all agree needs a major overhaul to be useful.

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…but your logic is wasted on some egomaniac who has no idea what he is talking about, except to react to some stray thing that ran through his head. This is like the straw thing. Or DEI in air traffic control. Nonsense BS good, anything Biden bad. Nothing better to do with his time and our money.

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That’s not either reasonable, nor sensible. Expensive BS for no reason.

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Wasting money and other resources on this stupid BS is hardly cost and waste cutting.