Thanks for the extra detail John.
I put ‘clean’ in quotes because I know it is a misnomer.
It’s main advantage is an immense supply and the ability to provide us with independent energy for many years. With that said it’s not first line in my estimation.
Interesting. The unintended consequences will be interesting to see develop both the good and bad. I hope this happens in the US. Air travel is not only a right, it is also a privilege. It would be nice to see the “privilege” side of the equation weighted the same as the “it’s my right” side.
Yay! This is a huge step towards communism in Canada, congrats! Americans better think and act, they have already come for our guns, now it’s our health with an experimental “vaccine” that does not prevent getting or spreading the virus. Pure nonsense, how would I be a problem for anyone else if I’m not vaccinated? This clearly has nothing to do with a virus and everything to do with removing our rights and freedoms. If you doubt that, stop and think for yourself. The swine flu, H1N1, bird flu and others were all the same virus, it was our reaction that was way overblown. Hitler would be proud, as he always said it’s lucky for the government the people they govern don’t think. Wake up now, or prepared to be asked for your “papers” at every corner. Then the real restrictions start.
Pilots are forced to take an unapproved drug to fly? I thought you were not supposed to pilot an aircraft if you WERE taking unapproved drugs?
A vaccine is not a drug. And in any case, the FAA has approved the covid-19 vaccine.
Vaccine mandates are actually quite commonplace, and in the US it goes all the way back to 1777 when Washington himself required soldiers to be vaccinated against smallpox. And schools have long since required vaccines for attendance. I haven’t yet been asked for my “papers”.
newrepublic.com/article/163122/vaccine-mandates-american-apple-pie
www.fox10phoenix.com/news/history-of-vaccine-mandates-in-the-united-states
Is anyone in this space old enough to remember Prohibition?
It was designed to address an alleged existential threat to society.
Now, we are faced with its functional opposite - a law that REQUIRES you to ingest a substance, rather than prohibits ingestion of another.
Of course, the law’s proponents assert that society faces another existential threat - a virus.
One man’s existential threat is another man’s unalienable liberty.
Irresistable force; immovable object.
This gets more interesting - and more frightening - every day.
Danger, Will Robinson.
The FAA (a government agency) has APPROVED use of the vaccines.
That’s a far stretch from a government agency REQUIRING their use.
You can call it whatever you like Mike. There’s more than one intention here and it’s primary reason is not concern for everyone’s health. It will separate, segregate and eliminate people and that is good. The outlying outcome will make everyone involved in flying happy.
I live in Nova Scotia, Canada. The province is already putting in plans for a “Vaccine Passport” which I would need to show in order to enter a grocery store, theater, gym, or just about anywhere. WTF… at least we have an election next Tuesday! Oh wait, both parties are for this “Passport” system. It won’t be long before they offer an alternative to carrying the passport… perhaps the number tattooed on our inside lower arm, of course accompanied by an RFID chip so they can scan us as we go through the doorways and deny entry to those with an immune system. Comply or become the fringe!
Over 80 years ago a tyrant ordered a religious class of persons to wear indentifying symbols on their person so they would end up separated from the rest of that country’s population, almost wiping out the entire “class”. The amazing thing to me is that “religious class” (for lack of a better term) is now very quiet over this “vaccine passport” thing. Amazing how people either forget or just ignore history, only to repeat it again.
Canada being an independent country can do wantever it wants, it is their citizens right. But enacting any “vaccine passport” in this country is just wrong on so many levels. Lots of legal scholars have said that almost all of the COVID restrictions are unconstitutional and would not stand up to any court challenge if they were actually brought to court. Sure airline travel is not a right but neither is any government requirement for “vaccine passports” for domestic travel constitutional. That violates several constitutional amendments dating back to the US civil war.
The mRNA Covid vaccines prevent death and serious disease. The virus only replicates within humans. The more it replicates, i.e., evolves, the more it changes into more “successful” (for the virus anyway) variants, such as the Delta variant. The less it is able to replicate the less it will survive. Vaccines prevent that replication and are the way to end the pandemic. This is the way the polio vaccine, tetanus vaccine, and a lot of other vaccines work. Those vaccines have eradicated diseases that used to wreak death and destruction upon their victims. Reading the comments of persons who have survived Covid suggests that this virus produces symptoms ranging from annoying to truly awful including death by asphyxiation. Isn’t it a wise choice to prevent getting this disease? Or are some people really choosing to get sick and die?
Beyond the health benefits there are the financial benefits to the vaccine. The cost of this pandemic has been gigantic. Businesses have closed, trade has been disrupted, growth has been stymied, and the hospital systems have been over burdened treating people who if they had taken the vaccine would never need the extremely expensive treatment in the first place. Treatment in an ICU is very very expensive. A shot isn’t.
Does anyone here remember polio? Or any of the other diseases that used to terrify people because the outcomes were so terrible? And which have been eradicated because of vaccines.
Totalitarian leaders make use of fear; they thrive on chaos and bewilderment; the strategy of fear is one of the most valuable tactics. Obey or you’ll lose your livelihood. 1984.
“Isn’t it a wise choice to prevent getting this disease?”
The key word in that sentence is CHOICE.
I’ll adjust the gain on my irony sensors.
I’m with you Rick, conspiracy anti-vaxxers talk about gene therapy and eugenics like a bad thing. Look it up, there’s no publications showing negative long term (more then three years) effects from mRNA gene therapy. Many famous people have given very powerful lectures proving we can stop human caused climate change with eugenics. You anti-vaxxers need to watch more tax payer funded PBS/NPR for more non-bias facts. Why are people so paranoid?
Just in case any of the readership is in Rio Linda, pro-choice is not at all the same thing as “anti-vax.”
No YARS I’m not old enough to remember Prohibition but I am old enough to remember polio and small pox and to have participated in stamping them out by having been vaccinated. Those immunizations had zilch to do with totalitarian leaders, neither do Moderna, Pfizer and the others. I’m also well traveled enough to have had an international health card listing immunizations required by various countries, a document as well accepted by everyone in its time as a US passport. In fact the two documents were rarely shown one without the other in many countries. Danger, Will Robinson. Join society. Get yourself vaccinated.
You know what they say about assumptions, John.
I, too, remember polio.
And I got two shots of Pfizer in mid-March and in early April.
I’m not anti-vax.
But I do believe in liberty, however 20th-century that concept may be.
This is not a personal liberty issue just like stopping on red and going on green isn’t. It is a global public health imperative.
Actually, the Covid vaccines are some of the notable types that do NOT prevent replication. You can still carry and spread it, you are just less likely to show symptoms (thus making you more likely to carry and spread it to vulnerable people).
With that false assumption removed, your conclusion must change.
Those who support government-forced medical procedures presumably aren’t well versed in history. It’s a really really bad idea.