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July 2019

system

Back in 1986, I decided that I’d had more than a stomach full of managing an FBO. One of the factors that pushed me to my decision was a conversation I had with a former student of mine, who had purchased an interest in the FBO. He told me that he’d heard complaints that I was “too demanding” of my students. “It’s important not to piss off our customers, Yars.” I replied that I thought that it was more important not to KILL our customers. Shortly afterward, I resigned.

Not long afterwards, management hired several flight instructors, to pick up my personal workload in that activity. Within two weeks, one of the new guys had soloed a couple of dozen students. Clearly, management’s assessment of me had been vindicated. Until it wasn’t…

I had come into the FBO to give my bladder a break. On my way back out the door, I saw a Tomahawk pitch up so steeply that I anticipated a non-renewable outcome. Stunningly, the plane pitched downward just as rapidly, and erratically made its way overhead.

I dashed into one of the briefing rooms, to call the control tower. No need to. As I reached for the phone, it rang. I picked up the handset. “Yars – did you see that?!?”
“What happened,” I asked.
“He flew through the 4,000 feet remaining sign. Completely shattered it. I’m closing the airspace. You’re cleared for takeoff.”

I grabbed the keys to something with wings, fired up, and took off from the ramp and adjacent taxiway.
The controller and I agreed to do business on the Tower frequency, because we were concerned that asking the student to tune another frequency could be the proverbial camel’s-back-breaking straw.

I established a radio rapport with the student, who was certain that he could not land the plane, and was going to die that afternoon. I assured him that he was not. By this time, we were orbiting the aerodrome at pattern altitude. I carefully examined his aircraft from all aspects. It appeared to be intact – our second piece of good fortune (the first being the absence of a smoking hole at the site of the former sign, which was constructed of two-by-sixes and 5/8- inch CDX plywood).

In the minutes that followed, I gained enough of his confidence to permit me to talk him through configuring the airplane for an approach (yes, it was just a Tomahawk, but the poor guy didn’t even know what the trim wheel was) and then flying to a successful landing with me 30 feet off of his left wing. When he achieved a favorable position-to-land, I had him close the mixture simultaneously with the throttle. He wasn’t going to die that afternoon.

All of the students the instructor had endorsed for solo were grounded, pending a review of their paperwork and readiness. The FAA was not amused. The instructor lost all of his certificates. For the FBO and the students, it could have been much worse. All’s well that ends…well?

The student continued his flying lessons. I’d like to report a happy ending, but…

A couple of months later, the 19-year-old student was killed when the motorcycle he was riding got T-boned by a speeding motorist on a local street. He never had a chance.

Sometimes, being “a hero” just isn’t very satisfying.

-YARS

July 2019

system

I’m with you YARS. Skill, knowledge, common sense and CONFIDENCE before soloing a student then the student must have the same.

July 2019

system

The Senator Heinz mid-air collision is a prime example how “just trying to help” can go horribly wrong.

July 2019

system

Good article.

July 2019

system

I saw this on facebook earlier. The pilot of the Cirrus was in my opinion a pompous arse. He should have asked the pilot of the Arrow who appeared to be doing just fine if he needed any help first before butting in. I am sure his actions added to the pilots anxiety not eased it. Yars story was a different situation, a low time student who probably shouldn’t have been solo and probably truly needed help and calming.

July 2019

system

I remember a few years ago losing all oil pressure about 15 miles outside of a class D (KBKL) airport. Blew the number one cylinder head right off of an RG, however, at the time I had no clew what happened. Needless to say I was a little bit nervous at the time trying to troubleshoot why the total loss of pressure. I finally radioed the the tower and communicated I had lost all oil pressure, was at 2,000’ msl and was inbound from the North East. I never declared an emergency. They immediately cleared the airspace for me and told me I was cleared to do whatever I had to. “The airport is yours, all runways.” I’ll never forget what a calming experience I had immediately after the tower said that to me. My head immediately focused on all options available without having to think about other aircraft in the vicinity or anything else for that matter. Ended up landing long on 24 with a strong NE tail wing. Used the entire runway. I like it when people leave me alone and let me do what I have to do.

tommy

July 2019

system

After all, it was a Cirrus pilot. Give him a break!

July 2019

system

Damned if you do:
An early fall evening, after tying down the airplane I sat down at the picnic table for a little hangar flying with a couple other pilots. Beautiful, cool, calm evening; you know what I mean.

A piper started up for a little night work and touch and goes. By this time, sun was down and it was legitimately a night flight.

While jaw-jacking around the picnic table, we suddenly hear: Scccccrrrrreeeetch, buurrrrriiiinggg. We all looked to the runway and all shouted at the same time: GEAR UP GEAR UP!. Sparks everywhere and it was just enough light and sparks that we could tell that the belly of the airplane never touched; just the boarding step and the prop. The pilot then poured on the coals… and got airborne again!

I grabbed the portable radio out of my flight bag. One guy got on the phone and called 9-11.

I got on the radio: “Pilot in the pattern, we’ve contacted 9-11 are you OK? Do you need anything?
Pilot: “Uhhhhh, no. I’m fine, it’s a beautiful night, coming back around to land”.
I shut up and let the pilot fly his airplane. The pilot called downwind, base and final. We were impressed with how calm he was. Nerves of steel this guy.

The guy lands and quickly taxis right by us, we wave and all thumbs up. “Looks like he’s making a Bee-Line to the hangar, don’t blame him, he wants no more of this lime-light”.We call 9-11 back and tell them to disregard, aircraft safely on deck.

Seconds later, we hear the piper powering up again. “What’s he doing? Checking the prop? Engine?”
Nope. HE IS TAKING OFF AGAIN!

Pilot takes off. I grab my radio:
Me:“Piot in the pattern, you’ve had a gear up landing! And a prop strike! Do you need any help? I think you might want to land!”
Pilot: “Uhhhh, whuuut? That last landing was sweet! Picked up Rubber!”
Me: Yeah, last landing was good, it was the landing BEFORE that! You took off again, after the gear-up-prop-strike!”
Pilot: “Whuut? Whachatalkingbout wheelsup-propinthedirt?

The pilot calls downwind, base and final. Still calm as a cucumber. Guy lands and starts to taxi towards us.
Did this guy have a stroke (seriously here)? Did his brain go to mush after the gear up? We didn’t know how this guy could have missed the gear up and the prop strike, so we were thinking some sort of medical issue.

So, as he taxied closer, we waved our arms, jumped up and down, shouted, yelled, shined flashlights at him. He pulls the plane up and we wave to shut down the engine. He shuts down and climbs out.

Prop is flower peddled and sure enough, the boarding step is ground razor sharp and thin. He had no clue.

So, here’s the thing: After witnessing this, what would you do? Leave your comments and I’ll tell you the rest of the story.

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July 2019

system

Run away as fast as I could to get away from that guy. That’s what I would do in a heart beat.

July 2019

system

You can see the full video of the event here. https://tinyurl.com/yy7dxc5j

July 2019

system

That Arrow pilot could have been a high-time CFII who also flies for a major airline! I would say he was most gracious in declining to tell the Cirrus pilot to buzz off!

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Cirrus pilot reminds me of the rich and stupid guy with tons of money - buys a toy and thinks he is a wizard. My chums thinks it is lucky that the Cirrus didn’t scare the Arrow pilot - talked Arrow pilot into using almost all of the runway. Too few functioning brain cells and too much bravado to be helpful. Cirrus pilot was so far away from Arrow - it was a good thing. Hope I never meet the Cirrus pilot

July 2019

system

“Say intentions”

I have very few peeves. I have fewer peeves when it comes to talking on the radio. Want to ask “traffic in the pattern, please advise?” Go ahead. Want to make a “departing north, last call”? Sure, don’t care. Wanna “take the runway”? Take it, it’s yours.

But controllers, one of the most unhinging and unhelpful radio calls during an emergency is: “Say intentions”. Even worse, if I don’t respond in 0.523 seconds with a detailed narrative about how I’m going to get out of this pickle, I’ll get a bit more firm radio call: “Cessna N1234, SAY INTENTIONS”

“Well center, my intentions are to fly to KABC, grab a 1/2lb fire grilled cheeseburger with fries and shake. Walk it off a bit around the airport and the local boardwalk. Sit down and take a load off before the return, take off, land back home, quickly cut the grass and grab some hot tub time….that is my intention.

However, someone pulled the chute on the blow-up doll mid-flight, I’ve got a guy in the back trying to get the door open, another guy taking pictures of the most unusual situation with said anamorphic balloon and I think my engine just quit. My intentions be damned”

Instead just say “CessnaN1234, understand you have an emergency, how can I help?” Maybe, throw in a “CessanN1234, closest airport is at your 020, 20 miles”. And if you really want to help, throw in the CTAF for that local airport. But please, don’t ask what my intentions are. My intentions for this flight, just like every other flight, is to land safely.

July 2019

system

I’m not sure what identifying the “would-be hero” as “Cirrus pilot” adds to this story other than provide red-meat for trolls. To me, there is more to learned here by identifying the would-be hero as the “over-zealous instructor”. I think we have all experienced instructors that provide too much help when it is not needed.

July 2019

system

Isn’t there an FAR prohibiting formation flying with an aircraft without permission from both pilots? Secondly this whole cozy setup between the pilot and controller is somewhat reminiscent of Deliverance. I think it’s a fair statement this individual is a classic example of a guy who’s been flying at this particular A/P for a few years and has acquired the attitude that the field is his personal playground. Unfortunately and no doubt like many others I’ve met such people who seriously seem to believe they have a right to know who is doing what at “their” field irrespective of law or even common sense. But as the saying goes, they’re everywhere.

July 2019 ▶ system

system

Maybe pilot was drunk too… not normal, What’s the rest of the story?

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July 2019

system

I don’t see anything wrong with it. I do this all the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2n1bovTaek

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July 2019

system

…and the parodies have begun. Go to YouTube and search on “i2n1bovTaek”. It’s a video about the “World’s Greatest Pilot” in his “Super Cirrus” saving everybody in the pattern.

As for the subject of this article, he has his own website advertising his CFI rates and services, plus videos, at “Alexander Wolf Corp . com” (remove the spaces).

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July 2019 ▶ system

system

Ha, ha! That’s hilarious!

July 2019 ▶ system

system

Well, we didn’t believe the pilot was drunk. No tale-tale signs of alcohol anyway.

However, he did seem “odd”….But, what’s odd here (other than taking off again after a gear-up prop strike)? I’d never met the guy before so I had no baseline. Was he just shaken up? Scared? Dunno.

But for us witnessing this, we just couldn’t figure out why. Do we just let this guy go on his merry way? Did he experience some sort of medical condition? So, we have a LifeFlight based on field and asked him if he’d like to go over to get checked out. He said “sure” so we walked over and explained what happened to the folks on duty. They had a look at him and said, “he’s fine”….so on his merry way he went.

July 2019

system

If I was the guy in the Arrow I would have told the Cirrus to back off. Last thing you want is some “wanna-be-hero”, offering unsolicited advice when managing an emergency. Now if I believed I had exhausted all options, and asked for help, that would have been different. The guy flying the Arrow seemed as though he had the situation under control.

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system

LOL, I should have known that was you Bryan…

April 2020

system

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