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June 2022

pstout

Some things never change…is China really banning Boeing parts to Russia (the biggest parts reverse engineering country on the planet)? Yea right.

June 2022

system

And once again, totalitarianism begets anarchy.

With apologies to the Talking Heads, “Same as it ever was.”

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June 2022

system

Cue the outrage. This? From a nation that bootlegged B-29s and C-47s? Who knew? How dare they?

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June 2022

MplsRich

We’ve been bootlegging used Boeing and Airbus parts for years. Just stick a new yellow tag on it and voila!

June 2022 ▶ system

system

Imagine that!

June 2022 ▶ system

Arthur_Foyt

Russia has probably never stopped making duplicate Boeing parts ever since the TU-4.

June 2022

J.P.C

Dunno that I’d call Russian parts “bootleg”. “COUNTERFEIT” is a far more accurate descriptor.

Who knows how the QA/QC on these parts will go? If Chinese counterfeit parts and their flawed metallurgy are an indicator, it’s caveat emptor for any who use 'em. I have absolutely no doubt these things will show up on the black markets of Asia, Africa, and South America, nor that they’ll find their way into the N. American and European supply chains. It’s a simple matter to create a fraudulent paper trail.

June 2022

CallMeDave

I’m sure that all of the OEMs will agree with you that PMA parts are counterfeit and should never be allowed.

I’m not supportive of Russia, but maybe a little less hysteria around this is warranted.

June 2022

system

and in other news, too much sugar is bad for your health.

June 2022

keith

Certainly have to know what you are doing and care.

An EE told a story that when a group was visiting China decades ago one person got him aside and sought advice on a particular oscilloscope they were having problems with. “Of all the American ones you could have copied that is the worst design.”

And remember Lucky Goldstar out of South Korea, its descendant is LG appliance company - Koreans learned.

And further back, Japan Junk - early post-war production was not great, but they are good learners (with help from Americans on quality and efficiency).

Aviation story: customers of a certain well-known airplane company complained about reliability of the tiny incandescent light bulbs of the 60s. Investigation showed that packages marked Made in USA were from a town in Japan, which had the name Usa from far earlier.

(Light bulbs were a problem anyway. For aviation they were supposed to be burned in then selected to be within

June 2022

keith

Certainly have to know what you are doing and care.

An EE told a story that when a group was visiting China decades ago one person got him aside and sought advice on a particular oscilloscope they were having problems with. “Of all the American ones you could have copied that is the worst design.”

And remember Lucky Goldstar out of South Korea, its descendant is LG appliance company - Koreans learned.

And further back, Japan Junk - early post-war production was not great, but they are good learners when motivated (with help from Americans on quality and efficiency).

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June 2022 ▶ keith

keith

Aviation story: customers of a certain well-known airplane company complained about reliability of the tiny incandescent light bulbs of the 60s. Investigation showed that packages marked Made in USA were from a town in Japan, which had the name Usa from far earlier.

(Light bulbs were a problem anyway. For aviation they were supposed to be burned in then selected to be within 15% of specified brightness. Purchase product not assured to be AS15 and you got the rejects from that selection.

Similarly, bearings for aviation products were often selected based on vibration when rolling them slowly, buy some without X suffix and you’d get the rejects with shorter life.)