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November 2022

Brian_Little

Having used CPAP for over twenty years – there are a couple of potential side effects that anyone trying bipap while flying should be aware of. (CPAP and BIPAP are cousins separated by different air pressure approaches.)

Dry eyes – easily fixed in most cases by using over the counter eye drops.

GERD (Gastroesophageal reflux disease) – CPAP treatment can increase acid reflux. For me, I have found that drinking tomato juice can reduce the GERD symptoms (my Doctor is still is doubtful that this works – but it works for me).

There are other potential side effects but these are the ones that affect me.

Brian Little
Marion, Iowa

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November 2022

Mike_H

Flying with supplemental oxygen would be a better idea.
There are some good systems from Mountain High Oxygen.
An example provides 9.5 hours of breathing at 15,000 feet from a 5.4 pound bottle of oxygen.
It’s only $1200.

November 2022 ▶ Brian_Little

keith

Good info thanks.

You must be speaking of full face masks.

There are nose-only masks and nostril-only interfaces. (The latter may be ‘pillows’ (bellows that seal against skin around nostrils with a smaller centering projection into nostrils) or ‘cushions’ which are open-sided manifolds that seal against skin.)

Nose and nostril interfaces need clear nasal passages, some people do not have clear because of sinus drainage, a few have poor geometry inside nostrils.

November 2022

keith

Beware:

Make sure there is an intake relief valve in the CPAP interface for when the power quits - some used in hospitals do not have one.

Good fit of masks/interfaces is a huge challenge in the CPAP industry, few retailers have knowledge of various designs available. There is a trade in the US specializing in CPAP.

There are small CPAP devices now, for a price.

November 2022

gliders

I’m sure my experience level is nowhere near that of the subject of this article, but somehow I have been able to determine the correct action is to fill my oxygen tank as necessary. That’s been working for me for as long as I’ve been flying my glider, which has been quite some time.

I would be interested to find out if a portable oxygen “concentrator” as used by some suffering from COPD would operate at high(er) altitudes. I would be much more likely to go with that solution - a shoulder bag + cannulus - than the gadget described here.

November 2022

krodland49

I have an even cheaper solution: Ram air. It only works on a Cessna with the ‘juice can’ ventilation, but focusing the air flow from the ventilator on my face increases my blood O2 saturation from 90-92% to 98% at 10,000 ft. I have tested this multiple times crossing the Cascades and Rockies, using a pulse oximeter

November 2022

maule

I’m a physician and an AME with high altitude training.

BiPAP may help a little. It simulates a pressurized cockpit for the user and it’s safe enough so likely worth trying but I think the pressure differential will not be adequate to provide a statistically significant result.

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November 2022

pilotmww

All interesting ideas, doubt the FAA would approve any. Like a lot of other things in aviation, just do what works. I used to take breaths from the Emer mask in the Citation on long trips to help stay alert. I just did some skydiving loads this year from 17,500ft using O2 from a cannula. Surprised how well that worked.

November 2022 ▶ maule

DougR

My hypothesis is is the increased inhalation pressure increases respiratory volume. 10 cm H2O is only about 250 ft of altitude, but it can have a significant impact on respiratory volume.