Staff Shortages Prompt New York Ground Stop - AVweb

Yeah, for once I agree with you. Automate the hell out of the system, eliminate as many humans as possible in ATC. Let a computer queue you up to land, it can do it more quickly than any human. With ADS-B, it will know where you are.
Decades ago a system called “Free Flight” was tried in Alaska. Prolly shot down by the controller’s union.

Quick, who was the Secretary of Transportation during the Trump administration? That’s right, Mrs Mitch McConnell. She and Mitch are millionaires, I wonder when was the last time she flew on a commercial airline? Of course her family shipping company did remarkably well while she was Secretary of Transportation, doing over 80 percent of its business with China. I guess it helps that she was born there. It’s a lot easier and faster to upgrade to captain on a jet than it is to checkout as a center controller. I don’t remember her addressing this issue, the upcoming pilot shortage or even the 5G fiasco while she was in charge. Of course she did give the airlines 50 billion dollars to make sure opinionated, know it all pilots, were paid even when they weren’t flying for months at a time, so I guess she
can’t be all bad.

Asshoel rich envrironmetn her on this thread, some dupe even tossed the IRS into the mix. Oh well, No Hitler remarks so were evenup

ADS-B was supposed to allow increased traffic with reduced separation. What happened to that?

What about ADS-B that everyone was forced by the FAA to equip at a cost of several thousands of dollars? The FAA sold that as a way to increase the amount of traffic handled. Beginning to sound like the FAA sold us another bill of goods!

Lets mention the R word, too much experience being retired too soon.

I wish I had the luxury of seeing Covid as anything other than a cataclysmic life ending disease, it has been just that for far too many people.

That was a close one!
I thought you were going to say, “RE*****CAN”!

It is going to get worse and never better.I wonder what DIE plays in all this?

“…automation doesn’t talk on the radio.”
Perhaps inadvertently (?), you’ve hit a nail upon its head.
If you set out to AUTOMATE an air traffic control system, why on Earth would you utilize a century-old paradigm of open-frequency verbal communications?
It’s the equivalent of trying to improve carbon paper - at a cost of (endless) billions of dollars.

Old YARSism: “The very best implementation of a flawed concept is, itself, fatally flawed.”

Give it a few years, to see how THAT works out…

YARS, good comment.

So what you are saying is ADSB was the wrong solution? I agree. Can we repeal the mandate now? Sounds like what we needed was email. Could have saved billions. Your read back could be, “On screen”.

The big theme in the administrative branch has been totally non partisan. While every voter is watching the shiny fighting, every department has been rearranged to ensure they can report statistical success in their function with as little risk and effort as possible. Law enforcement and regulators don’t go after the worst offenders, they go after the easy, technical violations. Tough problems are ignored while departments make strides on diversity, environment, or other things that aren’t their department’s mandate. Powerful interests get avoided because multi year fights look like failing, and cost resources. It might not be so bad except all the other regular games to increase budget and headcount are still being played.

So, would it be a bad guess that the reasons the airlines are not told they can have less departures from busy airports is that no one in the FAA wants to take the heat?

Seriously, “dot”? The reality, finally agreed upon by the scientists, is that very few people are now in danger of death. Those people are mostly long retired, or identifiable.

For reasons of unions taking advantage and other political BS the Feds have dragged out this thing way past it’s due date.

The luxury is all on the other side of this argument. TRILLIONS have been spent foolishly. That’s the people taking luxuries.

Kevin’s remark was in bounds. The foul is on you, bro.

Yeah…exactly WHO WAS IN CHARGE when we had to buy-in to ADS-B…?? was that “Mayor Pete”…? NO? Wonder who that was… Oh, Yah…MRS. McConnell! Trumps’ Administration.