Just for the record, even before Trump set out to destroy the world economy, the U.S. averaged higher tariffs on the rest of the world than theirs on us. The rest of the world is fully justified in isolating the USA right now, and not just at flying events…
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Couldn’t agree more. Trump is always three steps ahead of his detractors. Trudeau and his ilk are grasping for straws. A real adult, Pierre Poilevre, will soon be PM and relations between our two great countries will reach new heights.
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Huh? " U.S. tariffs are among the lowest in the world – and in the nation’s history". Pew Research Center. “Where are the highest, lowest tariffs? Trump’s reciprocal tariffs explained - The US has some of the lowest tariffs in the world. Trump is now threatening to reverse that with reciprocal tariffs, due to take effect on April 2.” AlJazeera. Both sources hardly friendly to the Trump Administration.
Meanwhile back at the hangar. People are surprised Canadians might skip Oshkosh. Just read the thread, it’s not debate, it’s hostility. Mocking, annexation jokes, “nobody cares if you come.” That’s not disagreement, it is making visiting pilots, their families and friends feel unwelcome, even unsafe.
This isn’t just about hurting feelings. It’s about respect. And if Canadian pilots take a pass this year, after reading all this, who can blame them? The level of stupid comments is sadly remarkable.
This is not the Oshkosh spirit. The hate, arrogance, and stupidity aren’t making a point, they’re making a mess.
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Tariffs have a place when America is making things that others overseas or next door is also making facilitating an “even playing field” for both domestic and export.
American participation in major manufacturing of durable and perishable goods for our domestic use and export is all but over. We have voluntarily given that portion of our economy outside of our boundaries.
That overseas/across the border manufacturing was not forced upon these companies. They chose to exploit cheap labor opportunity to fatten bottom line profits, which many Americans welcomed via their 401k’s or investment portfolios. Surprisingly, investment gurus, banks, Wall Street, our military congressional industrial complex , Pentagon, Congress, and Executive, Judicial branch of government, including our last 10 presidents never considered this overseas manufacturers would get really good at what they produced both in price and quality raising that labor forces standard of living. Those objectives certainly worked for America post WWII. Why wouldn’t it for others who chose to follow our then lead?
If you’re not producing, you are in no position to complain. Certainly cannot cry foul in a game you have chosen NOT to participate in, The best performing producer defines the price, quality, availability, and its distribution. China, Vietnam, Indonesia, India, Russia, Brazil, Mexico, and Canada have figured that out, and stepped into the vacuum left by vacating American companies, of which Americans have gotten accustomed to purchasing. If the company declines in quality, availability, performance, and its distribution, with increasing prices and less value, the consumer determines who can and does deliver a better product.
No one put a gun to the head of Continental/Lycoming/Cirrus/Diamond/Mooney and said you must sell your ownership to China. China bought all this huge portion of GA, invested in each of these companies or, in the case of Mooney, has chosen not to…( their choice as they are the owner)…and have been not only flourishing but are the GA leaders and innovators, while still employing US/Canadian workers paying taxes to Alabama, North Dakota, Minnesota, DC, and Ottawa, CN. And we love our/ their Cirrus/Diamond airplanes powered with Continental and Lycoming engines, using Garmin and Aspen avionics being painted with Sherwin-Williams paint, pulled thru the American and European air by Hartzell propellers. China learned to do American capitalism better than America now. Our competitive response? Do as we say, not as we do …, or in our case what we do not do… or we will sanction you, destabilize your government, and then shoot you!
The worst part of all this we are now the global bully, but got fat, flabby, lazy, complacent, and lethargic, threatening we are going to kick the rest of the planet’s collective keesters, if we can just manage to climb out of our Vietnamese made Lazy Boy, put out our Cuban cigar take that last sip of our Colombian coffee, pull up our Bangladesh made extra large shorts, and our Indonesian made stained T-shirt, point our nicotine’stained fingers at everyone shouting unfair…unfair… followed with “I’m coming at you”with an F-35 that does not operationally nor cannot perform, a few of the remaining 80 year old B-52’s, 6 of our flyable twelve B2’s, with a support cast of Javelins, Tomahawks, Patriots, and Stingers from 80’s, bring surveilled and guided by 30 million dollar plus Reapers bring shot down weekly, all of this financed by Treasuries bought by the countries we are seeking to destroy, Yeah, tariffs makes sense …REALLY?
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As you consider discussing finer points, you might do well to extricate yourself from the media bubble in which you find yourself to the extent that you hear and read actual words from the mouth of the current US president declaring that “everything including military action is on the table” with regard to annexing Canada.
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Your politics have certainly shown through
No, your politics are showing through in this bent to censor the facts of the news being for Canadians are actively boycotting the USA, and all US aircraft events.
What Canadian pilots should be doing is coming to Oshkosh ANYWAY
Explain why we should support the USA economy in visiting the USA?
If you don’t like Trump, thats ok. But giving this kind of stuff the light of day is just as bad or worse than Trump himself.
Trump, as representing you all and the USA, has declared war upon Canada.
This is just some hack garbage that continues the vitriol and division
Please re-read your vitriolic comment.
No, your complete lack of empathy to validated Canadian sentiments and of a compete aghast to the reality of reporting events in this current world are of alternative facts to fabricate insulting arguments against your former allies to the North.
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there would be no Canada without the US!
There remains a Canada due to the fighting and sovereign will of Canadians and despite the USA.
No other country has attempted (repeatedly failed) to invade and conquer Canada.
Thank you, for reminding us for why the USA is now currently boycotted. Enjoy your bubble and self inflicted depression to come.
Googbye, Lockheed-Martin and the F-35. Welcome, Saab or Eurofighter.
When you set your feet onto the ground and take in the spectacle of AirVenture,
Ground within the USA. With just cause, that is not going to happen.
Not a single sovereignty concerned Canadian will make the choice to visit and support the US economy.
Why should we toss your country’s aggression and politics aside to satisfy your hubris?
Please, do you not comprehend how tone deaf and unempathetic you sound?
We like airplanes and space. We like talking to other pilots. We like the discomfort of travel and the superb cuisine that entails. Tribalism isn’t a big part of it for most of us. Sort out the silliness and things will improve.
You’d have to be delusional or ignorant regarding Hitler’s rise to power to believe Trump is doing anything close to what Hitler did - even in his early years. Deporting criminal illegal aliens is not even in the same ballpark as jailing and persecuting innocent people because of their ethnicity/race.
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Hi all,
I am a Pilot from Australia, my wife and I try to get to Airvrenture every second year. We are not coming, and yes a little personal protest.
I will miss the show and all the people but the way your President is treating our Country I feel strongly enough to miss it and go to Europe for a motorcycle ride instead.
Please check your Tourism information numbers as what we in Australia are being told is the numbers travelling to the USA are down worldwide.
First time responding but I do really feel like we also are getting attacked, and we are your mates.
I hope you all enjoy the show and yes we will be back
Cheers,
Pete
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I love my country but truly despise what our government has declined to. The only nationalism allowed is global bending of the knee for the red, white, and blue.
I love flying, aviation of all types from models to full size aircraft. This includes the camaraderie forged from not only a common interest in flight, but the mutual respect that comes from accomplishment culminating in maybe becoming a pilot, aeronautical engineer, A&P, designing and building airplanes, then flying our creation, or bringing back to life a 100 year old airplane, and once a year , getting together at OshKosh showing respect for all that effort, dreams brought into reality, and being truly happy for others journey into the sky.
But to think we can disrespect our neighbors nationality thru cavalier challenges to their sovereignty, their economy by bombastically, with snarky sarcasm, announce another country is nothing but our future 51st state, to me, cannot be ignored. Nor swept under the rug because we have a common love for airplanes and risk spoiling a US national aviation treasure as world renown Oshkosh, because we expect the people our leadership have disrespected including their love for their country, national identity, and personal patriotism to show up at our uber patriotic, highly nationalistic event , with their Canadien’s flavor of aviation spending their hard earned Canadien money on our turf, and for a few days ignore our leaderships continued disrespect is extremely ignorant at best.
There is an old adage that says how people may potentially come out of complacency, or simple ignorance depends on “whose ox is getting gored”. If Canadiens including the Snowbirds boycott Oshkosh, people and aviation manufacturers of Mexico, Central and South America, South Africa, France, Australia, and Germany decide to sit out Oshkosh 2025 because of global economic testing from imposed tariffs combined with future escalating threats, our collective “ox gets gored” and we will be whining like babies. When Boeing and Ford fold their big tents along with their EAA sponsorship because they are no longer profitable is a real possibility. Can you imagine a 2.5 million dollar SR22T displayed if China chooses to convert our 145% tariff into a tangible reality? Followed with plant closures in Duluth and Grand Forks? How about your cylinders for your IO-550 when they shoot up to $7-10k per jug… if you can get them. And what about a decline in EAA membership and maybe 100,000 fewer folks coming thru the turnstiles. I get a feeling the aviation love and camaraderie espoused by many will evaporate quickly… because our ox is getting gored while our government continues to gore theirs.
It should be a very interesting Airventure this year. I am sure the EAA board of Directors are very nervous right now. We still have 90 or so days to attack and disrespect more countries prior to Airventure. Look what has been accomplished in 13 weeks so far.
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Not all your goods come from third world countries. The small amount of goods that you buy from us come from industry that pays their workers a lot higher wages than what your hardworking people make, and as an added extra, we buy more goods from the USA than you buy from us.That always exempted us from tariffs, but not anymore 
. If the USA wants manufacturing back on home soil, why is he going to exempt electronics and computers from Chinese tariffs? Why isn’t Apple etc coming home to produce their goods?
It’s all a big game, and in the meantime the rich get richer, and the poor get the picture…
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Every country has products to protect, mostly agricultural products. But overall, most industrialized countries have lower tariffs than the U.S. Trump’s “reciprocal” tariffs were based on a stupid formula & a massive Big Government overreaction that harms the world but does far more damage to Americans. It’s the biggest tax hike in U.S. history & is based on the assumption that the U.S. government is smarter than you are about your needs and preferences. Worse, the damage to our friends like Canada and allies is causing generational harm to U.S. interests. The biggest geopolitical blunder in American history.
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Not “Deporting.” Illegal removal without any legal process. There’s a difference. And, yes, I think most people would agree that there are some comparisons to be made. A person was kidnapped by ICE, apparently, for the infraction of signing a letter to the editor.
It’s not the same. No, not saying that. But there are comparisons to be made. So, now we need to make those comparisons, sadly.
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… unless you count a similar episode 164 years ago, wherein another megalomaniac decided he knew better than the majority of the US population. He was wrong, too. Its societal impacts are still being felt today.
Just the opposite. The U.S. is alone in this against the world. Canada recently engineered an international sell-off in Treasuries, resulting in a 10% devaluation of the dollar. That’s why Trump blinked. BTW, What exactly are the wonderful “deals” we are making, Mr. Facts?
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Regardless of the temporary new rules on tariffs and the impact on the political climate, CDS US relations will always be friendly and loyal. We must accept the actual decisions on tariffs and play within the new set of rules. I encourage Canadians and Americans to maintain and protect what work well namely AirVenture and similar venues. I am persuaded that events of this nature will contribute to restore harmony and facilitate dialogues for a lasting relationship… Please reconsider your participation and go to AirVenture
“ We must accept the actual decisions on tariffs and play within the new set of rules.”
No we don’t. One guy , one emperor, one president does not make my decisions for me, nor for 335 million Americans, or for our Canadien brothers and sisters…or for that matter, the rest of the planet. By being quiet, not wanting to rock the boat, failing to call out callous disrespect to an entire nation, economically turning countries upside down, destroying basic human dignity suggesting we just shake hands and through our mutual hugs and kisses, all will eventually be fine??? That’s Bravo Sierra and has played a major role why we got what we got masquerading as leadership. Our collective silence is deafening. This pilot is done being silent!
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