Some pilots can’t help themselves from sounding like the cliche older generation of pilots that love to hate on younger guys. The world has changed. Get over it. This kind of reductionist thinking by the previous replies ignores the great many dedicated flight instructors who worked tirelessly to train pilots coming into to ATP with sometimes zero hours under very tight deadlines. Many instructors I worked with were also dedicated to self improvement and were never satisfied to stop learning and developing both as pilots and instructors themselves. Not all students who come to ATP make it through. Not even close. Many cannot handle the pace and are forced out. The DPEs at my old location held our students to demanding standards that went beyond puppy mill-level knowledge and stick and rudder skills. Also if you read carefully you may have noticed FOUR…I repeat…FOUR ATP alumni were passed through from ATP into the hands of Frontier. You have to have an exemplary record as an instructor, pilot and strong reputation to even be considered for the program. In today’s environment with modern technologically advanced aircraft it might just be the case the airlines don’t need only guys who flew old beat up twins but articulate and bright young pilots who can handle the exacting stick and rudder standards of the same FAA that tests all of us and who can be expected to exercise great ADM and prove to be excellent systems managers. Get over yourselves guys.