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June 2023

Arthur_Foyt

It’s NOT 28 high school students from across the country. When you hand pick people because of race then that action is racist.

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June 2023 ▶ Arthur_Foyt

RichardKatz

perhaps compensatory racism in this case isn’t a bad thing? might be a step towards leveling out the current state of political imbalance in the country. now if someone could figure out a way to level out the income imbalance…

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June 2023 ▶ RichardKatz

Arthur_Foyt

Its against everything the civil rights movement was for AND is illegal under Federal discrimination law. Beyond that, wrong is wrong for everyone if you really are working for equity.

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June 2023

jamarogers

ALL racism is BAD… it’s about time this country wakes up to the fact that we can’t undo sins of the past. This kind of action only encourages further racism, prejudice and entitlement mentality. We need to move on and reassert a system based on merit and talent… else where do you think we’ll end up?

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June 2023

lstencel

Beyond the blatant racist situation – well stated by Jake above – $26K per student cost (~3/4 million $$ total) for what amounts to not even a private pilot certificate is NUTS! And incurring no further debt of service time TO the Navy in return is likewise nuts. It showcases the reason that everything associated with the Government is way, way overpriced. The ‘woke’ DEI way of doing business in the military these days is driving a lot of otherwise fair-minded people out, as well. Service chiefs … knock this crappus maximus off! If I were in Congress, I’d make this my cause celebre and yank funding ASAP. Meanwhile, in another Avweb article, the USAF is having a hard time KEEPING their pilots. Geesh !!

June 2023

Rick_Ewart

They lost me at “said CNAF Operations Officer for Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion”! Whenever I see those words, I know that that whatever is in there is only a bunch of WOKE, ANTI-AMERICAN, nonsense!

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June 2023

Rick_Ewart

I spent 22 years involved in Naval Aviation (1970-1992). It breaks my heart and makes me angry to see what has happened to our Military. Hopefully the Russian, Chinese, and Iranian Military’s are buying into the WOKE CULTURE of “Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion”. If not, America doesn’t stand a chance when the next War breaks out! God help us!

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June 2023 ▶ Arthur_Foyt

maule

Choosing people based on race is necessarily evil and against the Word and the teachings of MLK, who I believe would be appalled.

June 2023 ▶ jamarogers

bserra

I’m completely with You, Mr. Jake Rogers

June 2023 ▶ Rick_Ewart

bserra

I hope that the future doesn’t put in the reality the dangers that You, Mr.Rick Ewart, are foreseeing, that, by the way, are exactly those I foresee.

June 2023 ▶ Rick_Ewart

lstencel

I served during that same period, Rick. To read crap like this raises my blood pressure off the scale and breaks MY heart, too. Otherwise WELL qualified people are being passed over because some stupid Admiral (or above) wants to buy into the DEI idea. What happened to meritocracy. Some active-duty naval aviators are being passed over because they’re being told ONLY the best of the best are selected for promotion and those that don’t make the cut are still good guys. Then, somebody invents a program like THIS. We’re hosed!

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June 2023

theyeti

I look up the Linked In profile for CNAF Operations Officer for Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, and CNAF Flight Academy Program Manager Lt. Olivia Barrau, somewhat surprised as I expected someone who fills such a role would check at least several boxes.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/olivia-yeager-barrau-135a38194

June 2023 ▶ Rick_Ewart

billthedog

Horsemanure, Bollocks, Twaddle

June 2023 ▶ lstencel

billthedog

The most qualified are chosen. Read Eileen’s Bjorkman’s “Fly Girl’s Revolt”

June 2023 ▶ Arthur_Foyt

billthedog

They are not chosen based on race. The field is opened to those who, traditionally, have not had access to the opportunity. Merit is still a metric. Females went through the same sexist horsefeathers years ago only to prevail.

Deal with it.

June 2023 ▶ Arthur_Foyt

billthedog

I’ve seen sufficient entitlement in the white establishment, so it is an argument without legs.

The youth being chosen are ROTC kids.

July 2023

Raf

Diversity educational programs can generate controversy and unfounded fears among certain individuals who perceive themselves as victims. They are concerned that such initiatives diminish their opportunities or undermine the principle of selecting based solely on qualifications. Additionally, these individuals may mistakenly believe that diverse candidates are less qualified or that they are only selected to fulfill diversity quotas. Also, there are apprehensions about reverse discrimination, which may lead some to feel excluded based on their race.

Ultimately, based on my experience, diverse-based educational programs aim to establish an impartial and inclusive educational environment where every qualified individual has an equal opportunity to succeed.

October 2023

ceallen

Interesting comments. But imagine, what a loss it would have been if the Tuskegee Airmen, those low-income, thought to be less sthan average, Black men had not been given the opportunity to fly. Imagine, if flying was only meant for just White men. Imagine all of the great Black minds…and atheletes that would have been lost if it had not been for someone recognizing that there are many young people of color that can do great things, if only given the chance…for aviation, an extremely expensive activity that very few people of color can afford. Imagine if you removed the cost!!!