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Bravo!
No Sierra.

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Don’t know how it is since Covid, but before Covid, ramp delays and long line ups for departure were certainly no mystery as to why. At any of the big airports for each hour you could find numerous occasions where as many as 20 aircraft were scheduled for departure at exactly the same time, the same minute, and frequently many scheduled as such be the same company. 'Splain how that’s supposed to work without someone having to wait. And 105 arrivals scheduled to arrive during one hour when an airports maximum acceptance rate, runway capacity, is 80, well someone has to wait…like be late. Former ATC talking here.

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Zackly!

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Having actually been #27 for takeoff, I think some kind of taxi-out flow control might be a good idea. Seems like efficient (maximum) use of the runway could be served by always having one or maybe two aircraft holding short for takeoff, but not 26. The only reason to line up like that is to not lose your place in line. If that can be achieved in software (leaving the waiting airplanes at the gate with good (external) air conditioning, then so much the better for the passengers.

Of course then you have no gate available for the arriving airplanes.

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system

Which is again back to scheduling…and the penalty box (ORD) while awaiting a gate.

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When market demand exceeds runway capacity, how do you manage that without having the government directly manage the airlines? Who decides which airline needs to trim its schedule to comply with the capacity constraint?

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system

Schedule takeoff and landing availabilities. Never more than one at any given time.

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system

What happened to ADS-B? Increased trafffic capacity was one of the items used by the FAA to con airplane owners to equip!

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Agreed. A good solution. It’s called regulation. Regulation becomes necessary when private enterprise refuses to self regulate. Someone’s got to do it. Don’t complain when it happens.

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mcgee.mike

You want the government to “directly manage” the airlines? A “good solution?” Someone needs to go back and read about the airline industry prior to deregulation in 1978. You’re asking for way higher fares, far fewer choices, and a much smaller segment of the population who could afford air travel. Thank goodness there’s nobody in the industry or government even considering such an absurd scheme.

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system

Mm, let’s see, airplanes with as many seats as can be crammed in, non-existant customer service, very few non-stop flights! And how many times have there been bankruptcy filings in the industry since deregulation? Unrealistically cheap fares have created an unrealistic expectation of cheap fares, making people get mad when one airline tries to charge a fare that actually pays for the cost of the flight.

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Nope I didn’t say I want the government to regulate the airlines again. I merely agreed with YARS that when the airlines all want the same runway at the same time it’s a good idea to schedule runway availability which, like it or not is a form of regulation. The issue need not be demagogued.