DAVID_MACRAE

Isn’t there a landing fee at Midway? One can imagine 7 being gleefully charged… ?
The C210 is hard to slow down in descent without putting down the gear and at least 2 flaps which you can start to do at 165 Kts. Without those you pretty much have to shoot it out of the sky. Even then, a stable approach at the higher speed is going to be a challenge to manage, especially if you are high over the threshold and still need to slow down without at least another notch or even full flaps to avoid an excessively long landing and delay clearing the runway. Probably in 20/20 hindsight asking to go around might have been a better plan.
Easy for me to say… I know.

system

Am I the only one who thinks that controller was 'way out of line?

It was evident to everyone present that the landing was less-than-stellar, and for a number of reasons, starting with inexperience. I’m sure the cab crew got a good laugh out of it. But there is no way this pilot was not mortified by such a public display, then terrified by the “Advise when you can copy …” instruction.

When was the last time you heard a cop at your window say, “Do you know why I pulled you over?”, as a joke?

The tower supe should have slapped that controller silly, in the most PATCO-approved way possible.

flybymike

I agree that the controller’s remarks were not appropriate.
Also a little surprised to hear of flying a turbo 210 Centurion just after getting a licence.

Rich_Arnold

Many years ago I had a similar experience flying a borrowed 172 into Dayton OH (KDAY) the day prior to the big Dayton Air Show. In this case no trailing 737s, but my approach/descent was considerably speedier than standard due to a number of factors: Lack of recent experience in the 172; a last minute switch by tower from 24R to 24L (which had a nearer threshold); and the announcement on final that the airport would be closing in five minutes so that the Blue Angels could practice for the next day’s show. I think I only bounced three times on the landing(s) but as I finally got things stabilized on rollout I happened to catch a glimpse to my left and there, waiting patiently at the hold short line to cross my runway, once I cleared, and taking in the full display of my questionable airmanship, was the entire Blue Angels squadron. No rude comments from the tower needed to complete my embarrassment.

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David_Jackson

Be glad it wasn’t the Screamin’ Eagles!

RichardKatz

Oh gosh! I can feel your embarrassment!

system

Chip, nah. Not just “welcome to aviation” nah either. I mean seriously. If someone is sufficiently anxious that a bit of teasing will hinder their performance, that’s a long-term hazardous attitude or mental health issue. Pricking the balloon of a pregnant silence also brings out the embarrassed laughs and stories we’ve all got.

If I was on ground that day I hope I would have been quick enough to tell Stewart he was going to be billed for 7 landings.

daled78596

I know that bounce. Got my ticket in a 206 and its tempting in B class to keep the speed up. Now I just slow it down.

system

Whoa I had one of these! Mine took the form of a stroke due to occurring in the vertebral artery in my neck. Most are believed to be due to injury, often minor, plus bad luck. The chest ones are apparently often weightlifters who banged the bar on their chests the wrong way. No one who treated me had heard of a re-occurrence. The only well-known example we could find was the Australian national cricket player who died immediately after taking a knock to the head just below his helmet.

system

This is how bad luck turns into very good luck.

system

For those who are scratching their heads at Allen’s body temp being lowered to 20 degrees F, well below freezing, his body temp was actually lowered to 20 degrees C or 68 degrees F.

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system

Thankful to get this update on Kenneth Allen’s condition. Prayers that he totally recovers. Some of us with known conditions should consider having their spouse take the Pinch Hitters Course to know how to land safely.

system

Ah, thanks! Units matter

system

Thanks, Brian. I forgot to make the conversion. Fixed now.
Russ

system

Happy to hear the pilot had a successful surgical treatment!

For the record, aortic dissection has only a passing similarity to a stroke. A stroke occurs when neurological (brain) tissue is damaged due to a lack of blood (either because a vessel has ruptured or has become obstructed). Stokes almost always lead to some amount of neurological impairment (speech, motor control, cognition…). Some people have full recovery and some don’t.

Aortic dissection is the failure of the largest blood vessel in the body (the aorta, which carries the entire blood supply of the body from the left ventricle of the heart). When severe, death can occur in minutes due to a near complete loss of blood pressure. Risk factors for aortic dissection are uncontrolled high blood pressure, older age (sorry), some connective tissue disorders, and a congenital condition of the aortic valve (bicuspid aortic valve).

The treatment and the impact of both conditions differ considerably (although either one can kill you).

system

Condolences in advance towards the FAA yanking whatever they want. Considering the recent red bull etc stupidity (not justifying any of it) done for stunt value, Allen’s actual emergency might qualify for certificate action. I sincerely hope not.

Fortunately the impromptu pilot, not having any certification, need not be concerned about any yanking. Unless he decides to take up flying in the future, at which point the FAA may come up with a retroactive excuse.