system

Just like most of the state enacted orders it will be interesting to see how this is enforced. Lots of local law enforcement agencies all over the country have gone on record as saying they will not (what are described as unconstitutional) enforce mask orders or have said there is no law to enforce. The FAA has not enforced any mask order that I know of and TSA has only enforced the orders at security checkpoints. In fact the FAA has said companies cannot mandate pilots in pressurized planes to wear masks unless that company can prove that the face covering does not interfere with emergency O2 mask use. That would be something considering the FAA has allowed sim training to skip any emergency O2 mask demonstrations for now.

system

“The premises of a transportation hub.” I wonder who authored that diberately vague phraseology?
Does that include FBOs sometimes used by Part 135 operators? The parking lot in front of the building?
Are Part 135 flights even covered by this constitutionally questionable “Order?”
Brave New World.

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system

Deliberately. (Fat fingers.)

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system

This does indeed pose an interesting situation. Constitutional issues aside, the laws of the US Government and all states grant their leader (Governor or President), in times of emergency, the power to mandate actions to protect the safety of their citizens. This is pretty clearly a national health emergency. However, I don’t see anything granting the CDC the power to order any action without the specific concurrence of either the President and/or the Congress. They can issue guidelines for implementation of a process, but it requires either the Executive or Legislative branch (or both) to make it law. Did I miss it, or did President Biden issue an Executive Order to support the CDC “mandate”? Also, since this is now a national decree, would the FBI (the federal government’s law 6enforcement body) be the ones to enforce it rather than state or local police?

I’m not an anti-master, and would be willing to wear a suitable mask while accessing airline travel, or any other mode of public transit. But, this calls into question a whole host of legal issues. Oh, and YARS, who do you think wrote the “law”? Lawyers of course, probably ones that don’t know the difference between Part 91, 121 and 135.

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jimhanson

While the U.S. focuses on MORE LAWS and MORE CONTROLS–Canada Airlines is doing something about it. It is dated Feb. 1.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/air-canada-suncor-and-other-companies-launch-rapid-screening-consortium-to-test-for-coronavirus

The rapid-screening test has results in 15 minutes. It takes a proactive test for flight, instead of a government mandated “THOU SHALT NOT” approach–“Take this test, and boarding starts in 15 minutes.”

Once again, private enterprise succeeds where government fails–ASSUMING, of course, that the government doesn’t disapprove this in a fit of “not invented here”.

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system

This action appears to be an “Executive Order” - NOT a Law. Makes it all the more questionable.

system

Since most of the newer charter customers are doing so to get away from airline rules, I see this “mandate” as even less enforceable than the pt135.89(b)3 O2 requirements for cockpit flight crew members in pressurized planes.

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Kevin_B

Unfortunately yes they are making 135 operators follow this. Dumbest thing you can ride in car with your family to airport without one but you have to wear one in the plane with your family onboard. Biden trying to kill more jobs and lack of common sense. One of the reason the charter business was doing well since people wanted to travel without mask.

Kevin_B

Does not apply to the crew but our DO put a letter out for us that we as a 135 need to ensure our pax have a mask on. One of the many reason people charter airplanes now is so they do not have to wear a mask.

system

As a public health issue, CDC guidelines now mandating strict masking on public transportation systems provides commercial airlines the means to remove those refusing to mask up. For whatever reason, this unprecedented Covid-19 pandemic seems to befuddle, anger and frustrate ignorants unwilling to heed health warnings. America is not alone in personal freedoms against a world wide pandemic easily held in check with a mask while in a confined cabin full of strangers. Anyone anywhere can be asymptomatic, unaware they’re carrying this virus to spread easily. It’s carried on clothing as we exhale, floats into the air to deposit on the next victim unaware he or she has become another carrier then become infected without rhyme or reason . Whether or not a person becomes infected is reduced if a mask is worn and hands are cleaned before touching their nose, eyes or face. Inhaling a virus is easy. Keeping it at bay is just as easy and readily proven with masking and social distancing. Tight cabin confines presents it own unique health concerns so those knowing their health conditions tend to remain aware yet there will be ignorants with colds and flu that insists on flying. How do we determine these people who are sick from preventing them from flying against those belonging to the super spreader club carrying Covid-19? I dislike masks but wear one everywhere I travel in public. Even ski areas admonish everyone waiting on line for a chair lift to mask up and separate. Wearing skis or snowboard tends to force separation.

The airlines can now enforce masks on board and have already banned passengers refusing to wear masks. If you obey putting on a seat belt before take off then masks are a temporary health solution until the majority of everyone are vaccinated on this little orb we call Earth. The last pandemic killed well over 100 million without science and masks. We’re suppssed to be smarter yet ignorants are still around to slow progress. Remember, masks are an inconvenience and temporary until the majority of this planet are vaccinated so we can once again show our yellowed teeth in snapshots instead of the bandit look.

system

…the Canadian government has mandated masks on commercial airlines for many many months. The Canadian requirements look almost the same as the US ones, except the Canadian ones have been in place for much much longer. Any rapid testing is IN ADDITION TO mask mandates, not instead of.

system

And those tests have been show to be unreliable.