system

The listened to the audio, this was not JFK’s ATC’s finest hour.

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system

I wonder if they’ll get a ticket

system

I wonder if they’ll get a ticket for hit-and-run.

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system

Why is there no photos of either plane and damage?

system

Had it have happened at EWR, he’s have his ticket punched for hit and run.

system

Ehi, nessun problema! è stato solo un piccolo danno… Holly smoke! LOL

system

Beware that there may have been a delay in recognizing that damage occurred, some reports suggest damage to the AF airplane was discovered by ground crew at the terminal.

system

The ITA plane is back in the air after 2 days in the hangar in Rome and the Air France plane is still grounded at JFK.

Wonder if the ITA crew decided to escape the mountain of FAA paper left behind for more favorable home country?

system

Couldn’t agree more.

system

Many cars now have parking sensors, and are required to have backup cameras. Can anyone tell me why airliners don’t have multiple cameras and proximity sensors to detect and avoid collisions?

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system

None of the automotive sensors are certified to any standard. If these kind of sensors were to be put on airliners they would have to meet some kind of FAA standard, therefore exponentially increasing their cost.

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system

I kept reading this thinking it was an in-flight collision until the second paragraph.

system

Not every slight bump is an impending mishap. Inasmuch as the Alitalia PIC didn’t even feel it, perhaps his learned judgement should be factored in. Just sayin.

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keith

And automotive sensors are variable, Musk/Tesla avoids lidar. The challenge is interpretation of raw data that sensors provide - Tesla has serious problems such as forks in roads and truck trailers the size of freeway signs.

keith

I advise not to assume that flight deck crew would feel a small impact, especially a scrape.
It is a big airplane.

keith

NewUserName

That’s true, and the parking sensors, not to be confused with adaptive cruise or self driving sensors, may not work that well in the application. I wonder if it’s been tested with any seriousness.

I think it would be worthwhile in the nose or tail though (I’ve watched airliners try to squeeze in to help ground or the tower).

I know diesel exhaust sometimes sets mine off if I’m next to a bus at a light. So, that tech may just not work around kerosene burners.

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jbmcnamee

Jets keep getting larger, airports keep getting more traffic, especially those handling trans-ocean flights. But none of our major airports is getting any more real estate to handle the load. We can expect more of this type of “fender rash” incidents in the future.

keith

Thanks.

So it detects smoke?

Or at least smoke with particles in it, a concern with diesel engine exhaust. (Hence particulate filters.)