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March 2023

bob9

Dictatorships always take over control of the airwaves and the judiciary.

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March 2023

Roger_Mullins

Netanyahu has always been the biggest supporter of the Israeli Nation. Now unless Israel’s wokeness has gotten so bad that he is trying desperate steps to stop it, he would not be a Dictator. Of course if he is trying to stop “wokeness” he will be attacked from all sides. Watch for the details in the recipe.

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March 2023 ▶ Roger_Mullins

Brian_Smith

Can you define “wokeness” in a way that would lend some kind of logic to your post? When a country’s leader wants to put himself above the court system, how else are you going to describe it than a dictatorship?

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March 2023

joe5

Good for those Pilots! Hope they can uphold their standards as the pressure mounts.

March 2023

RichardKatz

Scary, that a bastion of democracy, a refuge for the victims of Adolph Hitler, is now itself being run by a dictator. If this doesn’t serve as “the canary in the cage” warning for democracies around the world, including the US, I don’t know how much more clarity can be added to the situation. Democracy and freedom are not guaranteed. Ya gotta fight for equality and liberty.
As for “wokeness”, a definition might be “responding to being so frightened by aspects of reality that denial and blaming others is comforting and reassuring”. It’s really hard to be rational when you’re scared. In a very limited context, pilots should know this, as it makes up a large part of pilot training. It ain’t easy to learn to push the yoke in a stall as the earth appears to be rushing up to kill you.

March 2023

shalom

First, just for the record, Netanyahu is the country’s prime minister, not the president.

Second, Roger, t. while I am not sure what led you to the conclusion that he was Israel’s “biggest supporter” nor what do you define as “woke”, Netanyahu now faces three criminal counts of bribery, cheating and breaking trust as an elected official. Now he and his government tries to take absolute control of the judiciary, including the capacity to appoint judges that are very likely to be the ones that will seat on his expected appeal, if convicted. Please explain to me how selecting your own judges is “”“woke”“”.

Secondly, as Bob g. suggested, let’s look at the following list: Germany, Italy, Romania (1930’s), Hungary, Turkey, Russia, were democracies in which elected officials weekend its judiciary after taking power. I will call each a dictatorship. Now Netanyahu and tries to follow the same route. His current a government includes a minister (Smutrich) called for “erasing” a Palestinian village, Refused to have his wife share a hospital room with an Arab woman. The minister of internal security has been convicted 8 times, including for terror (over Palestinians), and stole the emblem of the late Prime Minister Rabin prior to his murder, stating " we will know how to get to you just as we got to this symbol". His Government first appointed as finance minister a person who was convicted and served time twice over financial crimes, and that avoided a third time by convincing a judge he will not have another opportunity. After this was rejected by the court, his government passed a law that it is permissible, a law that was struck down by the court, and now they are trying to pass again. The same government is now debating a law that will allow elected officials to accept gifts for legal and health issues.

Are you still holding on to your “”“”“woke”“” claim? Or to his greatness?

March 2023

fritzbuy

Shalom W.- Excellent post with clear, concise supporting details. These are the kinds of responses that actually support democracy and it’s processes. Best to these pilots and their cause.

March 2023 ▶ bob9

bserra

Fully right. But we must not close our eyes in front of situations, even in democracies, mainly when there is a strong majority supporting the government, where this one behaves exactly the same way.

March 2023 ▶ Brian_Smith

Boogie

The situation in Israel is not unlike the exercise of Executive Orders here in the States. When Donnie does it, it’s treasonous; but Barry and Joey do it for “the preservation of democracy.”

March 2023 ▶ Roger_Mullins

Jim_Kabrajee

Looks like ChatGPT still needs a little work.

March 2023 ▶ Roger_Mullins

jethro442

Saddam was the biggest supporter of the Iraqi Nation.

March 2023

FlyerDon

No wonder Trump loves this guy.

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March 2023

maule

I am a conservative Christian. I was born and raised Orthodox Jewish and became a Believer when I was 20, I am now 58. My parents were both Holocaust survivors. Auschwitz. I am a passionate Zionist.

I only want good things for the Holy Land and God’s Chosen People. I am confident this will be worked out.

Israel certainly does have issues with the growth of a liberal populace, similar to what the US is dealing with. As a consequence there is a swing of the pendulum to more conservative leadership, again similar to President Trump here in the US.

March 2023

flyingfireman

The IDF should be above politics. What ever side you are on in this issue, these actions by the pilots are not good. Israel is a beacon of democracy in a dangerous and unstable part of the world.

One of the reasons it exists is because of the strength of the IDF. Netanyahu is playing with the future of Israel if he starts alienating the IDF.

Changes this momentous should not be done at this speed and without broader consultation. It is time to hit the pause button and everyone take a breath.

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March 2023

Boogie

What a hoot! There has not been this much outrage over abuse of power since Fat Donnie has been in office. The EO’s from Barry and Joey, of course, have been vital for the survival of our “democracy.”

March 2023

Boogie

There has not been this much outrage for abuse of power since Fat Donnie has been in office. Of course, EO’s from Barry and Joey have been vital for the survival of our “democracy.”

March 2023 ▶ FlyerDon

Boogie

What a profound post, Kiddo.

March 2023

n66025

This is (or says it is) an AVIATION site, not a site in which to discuss international politics. The article is both poorly informed and apparently biased. If one wishes to understand the current political issue in Israel there are many good websites which are good sources. My view is that the issue is being widely misrepresented both here in the US and in Israel. I recommend that anyone who is sincerely interested in the issue start here: https://carolineglick.com/what-the-battle-for-judicial-reform-is-really-about/.

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March 2023

n66025

UPDATE: this is more current information, from Israel, on the incident. https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/368491. The article is misleading at best.

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March 2023 ▶ Brian_Smith

William_Copp

You mean like Biden is doing?

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March 2023 ▶ Brian_Smith

Roger_Mullins

If “Biden” (insert your favorite subterfuge control system) controlled the courts to make anything you do against them illegal, then wouldn’t defying the court be the only recourse?

March 2023 ▶ William_Copp

MplsRich

So Biden then made sure Roe got overturned? Hmmmm can’t follow your logic

March 2023 ▶ FlyerDon

Boogie

What a profound post.

March 2023 ▶ flyingfireman

MplsRich

The IDF should, but the fact they’re getting involved tells you the level of danger.

Also, Israel is not a bastion of democracy- just ask the 1.2m Israeli Arabs about this. Not to mention the decades of illegal occupation and land grab. There are hundreds of thousands of Jews worldwide that are in agreement with this. If interested just do some research and be enlightened

March 2023 ▶ FlyerDon

Boogie

What a profound post.

March 2023

Boogie

There has not been so much outrage over executive power abuse since Fat Donnie was in office. Of course, the countless EO’s from Barry and Joey have been vital for the preservation of our “democracy.”

March 2023 ▶ FlyerDon

Boogie

What a profound post. Did you come up with it all by yourself?

March 2023 ▶ FlyerDon

Boogie

Did you come up with that profound post all by yourself, Kiddo?

March 2023 ▶ n66025

SL2

This farce of a post links to an ultra-right-wing blog where she claims this is OK because all of the lawyers are lefties.

Dangerous, disingenuous fascist stuff there, Caroline! Yeah, you’re right, let’s keep this to AVIATION and not post links to fascist bloggers.

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March 2023 ▶ SL2

vayuwings

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March 2023 ▶ SL2

Boogie

We’re so blessed to have your Antifa/BLM brethren to stop this by spending a summer burning entire city blocks.

March 2023 ▶ n66025

SL2

Your comment is misleading at best. Actually, it’s a bad faith argument at best.