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February 2023

sfergson727

Well, at least he didn’t take him waterskiing afterwards.

RIP

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February 2023

chip

Oh my gosh! Just think how bad that could have been if it had been a 16 year old student driver in Philly. Why, oh why, don’t we require third-class medical exams, and recurrent training, for Drivers-Ed teachers?

February 2023

maule

Poor guy.

Was likely afraid of losing his medical by reporting an issue and having it treated. Instead he is dead from something that may have been preventable. I realize this was the UK but it’s probably similar to the US.

Dead is even worse than losing a medical.

Better still would be a system that is less adversarial to a pilot with less than perfect health.

I say this as an AME with over 20 years of experience.

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February 2023 ▶ sfergson727

maule

Extra credit for the Weekend at Bernie’s reference :slight_smile:

February 2023

Raf

Requiesce in pace frater.

February 2023

jbmcnamee

Don’t assume that the guy ignored symptoms of an impending heart attack. Speaking from experience, I wound up with heart surgery without experiencing any symptoms that would have signaled a problem. I feel for the guy because mine came as a huge surprise with no advance warning as well. There is a blockage known as the “widow maker” that has little advance warning and is almost immediately fatal when it lets go. To William’s point, a more “pilot friendly” approach to medical issues would be very welcome. The Basic Med program is a good step in that direction, but it could still see some improvements.

February 2023

maule

I agree John. It is entirely possible he was asymptomatic up until the moment he occluded his left main and had a lethal tachydysrhythmia.

I’m a bit jaded with the FAA medical system though.

Years ago, before I was an AME, I had a patient who was also a friend and fellow pilot.

Excellent guy, very skilled pilot. Flew a DC-3 out of KHWD for a wealthy family who turned into a flying RV of all things.

Anyway he had angina I could NOT get him to work up or get treated as he was afraid he was going to lose his Second Class.

You know where this story is going…

Poor bastard dropped dead just like the guy in the article. Only rather than in the air he was on a date with his girlfriend.

Makes me sad and angry after all these years.

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February 2023 ▶ maule

bbgun06

That’s tragic. Pilots are afraid to lose their medical because it can take years and lawyers to get it back. There should be a system for temporary/voluntary grounding without losing the certificate, and a streamlined process for getting it back once the medical condition is treated.

February 2023

Arthur_Foyt

Well, who hasn’t pulled that gag of sleeping/dying at least once during their flying career?
Really glad that he was not solo PIC at the time since he might have quickly shared his incapacitation with others on the ground.

February 2023 ▶ maule

MplsRich

Yes. Totally agree. And these are the ‘deadly’ conditions. There are other ones such as depression and other chronic conditions as well.