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July 2022

shalom

What a sad day! Now one of the most (Mostly unjustifiably) expensive FBO’s will have far more influence, and far costlier fuel, landing, and (primarily unneeded) service.

GA just became far more expensive. A day of sadness to most of us.

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July 2022

Pilot_Gil

Awesome. I can’t wait for higher prices and being treated like a leper.

July 2022 ▶ shalom

owend_2001

I agree. Not good news for general aviation.

July 2022

Pedro

Signature is overpriced, and the worst FBO in the world. Services are lousy, and never live up to even the minimal expectations of decent FBO. Sorry to see TAC Air go, standby for $11.00 jet fuel.

July 2022

LG1

Wherever one looks, there’s never a positive comment about Signature. I’ve been with TAC Air (previously Millionaire) since 2008 and always had great service, reasonable prices and warm interactions. I’m not looking forward to this change. In my experience, Signature hates piston aircraft.

July 2022

Karrpilot

Whenever I go into an FBO and I see the vaulted ceilings, plush surroundings, capuchino machines, and it lit up like the white house Christmas tree, I know that I am in the wrong place. Because someone has to pay for all of that. Usually me. Then I feel like the illegitimate love child at the family reunion. Putting fuel in a old 182…

July 2022

Chris_M

Oh good. Now more places to be overcharged and treated with utter contempt.

October 2022

Mike_H

There is no video linked to display here.

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October 2022

Roger_Mullins

All of the U-Tube videos say it was hit by a SAM. Not a powerline.

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October 2022 ▶ Roger_Mullins

500ks

If it says so on the Youtube it must be true…

However it would be quite unusual for a SAM strike to cut the fin off with such a clean, straight line without apparently damaging anything else around it…

October 2022 ▶ Mike_H

rniles

Fixed

October 2022

Roger_Mullins

There is NO room for lies on the internet…

October 2022

Sparky

I don’t think its genuine.

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October 2022

Zeca

Amazing event. He was even lucky to catch the explosion! WOW! after that one he must have celebrated being alive :slight_smile:

October 2022

shalom

Two questions:

  1. the response speed from hit to ejection seem amazing to me. I am no fighter pilot, but i suspect even a well trained pilot would take at least two seconds to assess. On the other hand vegetation seem to take the longest time.
  2. I assume the pilot had a radio on him, but nothing shows an activation. Yet he talks on it within less than a minute. Do those activate automatically?
  3. How long does it take a parachute to deploy? The pilot ejected and landed within seconds.

Both of those questions make me think that the video is edited. Thus I think authenticity question also come to mind.

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October 2022 ▶ Sparky

Robert_Gregg

I agree. The cockpit details look like cgi to me.

October 2022 ▶ shalom

rpstrong

In answer to the third of ‘both’ your questions: Google “MIG-29 Crashes at Paris Air Show”. There are numerous videos available; this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi-U_JYXtr0

has a great perspective of the pilot ejecting, at about the 17 second mark. Don’t be distracted by the canopy flying off to the left - watch the pilot tumblin off to the right.

He not only survived; he was sore but flying the next day.

October 2022

rzarkos

Never seen Anyone Jump or Bail out of any aircraft and not 1. look up to see an open canopy.
2. look down before impacting the ground.
I know I did…

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October 2022 ▶ shalom

les

  1. It is an incredibly fast response, though I would imagine that when flying at a low level like that, one would be primed to eject at the first sign of any anomaly.
  2. Not sure what you mean by “activation.” Turning a radio on is very simple and the video doesn’t show the pilot’s hands anyway.
  3. I make it to be about 10 seconds from ejection to landing. That’s the same as the second test in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1cnvJO1TF8 (the first one was shorter but didn’t appear to be survivable…)
November 2022 ▶ rzarkos

T.V

Really now? There is a distinct difference between bailing/jumping out and ejecting at low level. I will never have to eject since I’ll never fly an aircraft so equipped but I have heard from those who did that you’re trained pull the handle and brace, it’s nothing like bailing out of a burning Hurricane over Canterbury in 1940 or some piston powered experimental in an unrecoverable spin.