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January 2023

jethro442

So much easier to criticize someone else’s report than to create ones own.

January 2023

TMildenberger

jethro, you seem to not know the international systematics behind accident investigation. See ICAO Annex 13. Such a report should not be a national exercise, but together with all involve parties!

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January 2023

Roger_Mullins

The NTSB and BEA must point out glaring faults with the flight crew, how else can the rest of us learn. There were some serious errors made by the crews, was it training or a single pilot issue? These need to be addressed.

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January 2023

Richard_Smith

The right-seater had 200 hours TT, yet according to the CVR, he had the solution- “Stab Trim Cutoff,” thus de-selecting MCAS. The captain overruled him, and the airplane flew into the ground (at almost full throttle, another lapse in SA.)

January 2023

Hangar29

Speaking of “single pilot,” incredible that Ethiopian Airlines would put such an inexperienced pilot in the right seat of an airliner. (Actually, he had about 350 hours – not 200 – but still woefully inexperienced.) Total loss of respect for the airline. And where was the airmanship? You’re flying a plane that wants to dive – wouldn’t your first instinct be to pull back on the power? Yet nobody did. That was ignored by the Ethiopian accident investigation bureau – more loss of respect.

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January 2023 ▶ TMildenberger

bserra

Quite right!

January 2023 ▶ Roger_Mullins

bserra

Of course, Mr. Roger.

January 2023 ▶ Hangar29

bserra

Precisely! Create reports full of leaks so necessary to understand what happened doesn’t help the aviation world and the airlines.

January 2023

rekabr52

So, is it possible that it was the crew which caused this accident? The Captain overruled the First Officer so does this mean that the system wasn’t totally at fault or was their training part of the problem? Am a retired A&P and not a pilot and this does seem kinda strange.

January 2023 ▶ Hangar29

500ks

Right-seaters with such low experience (and thus low salaries) have become more common than you think in many countries.