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January 2023

gliders

“The operational F-117s are based at the Tonopah Test Range, a top secret facility about 150 miles north of Las Vegas, which was also their home base when they were on the offical inventory”

They were based at Holloman AFB in New Mexico from 1992 to retirement in 2007.

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January 2023

luckyfivetwo

I bet that the company that gets the maintaince contract will either be owned by the Communist Chinese or will be purchased shortly after they get the contract.Through Chinese oversight any secrets needed by the Communist Chinese will be available to them.The US Government just allowed the Communist Chinese to purchase prime farmland near an Air Force base in South Dakota that controls a lot of the UAVs.They can study all the communications from the base to satellites to the drones.

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January 2023 ▶ luckyfivetwo

RichardKatz

The human species does seem to engage in self defeating behavior across a wide range of domains! At the GA level, one only need to review the post accident reports, then ask yourself,
“Why the hell did he/she do that?!!”

January 2023 ▶ gliders

rniles

Thanks. I’ll fix it. They were based at Tonopah initially.

January 2023 ▶ luckyfivetwo

rkphillipsjr

I’ll bet that you are wrong.
Export controlled means export controlled. I work on documents, for example, that require me to keep my office closed to non-US citizens.

January 2023 ▶ luckyfivetwo

bserra

If I would bet against You, I’ll loose.

January 2023

bserra

Of course I’m replying to Mr. Leroy C…

January 2023

rekabr52

This is kinda bizarre. First you retire them and now they’re gonna fly 10 more years? I’d be curious to know why this is happening and training others seems a bit strange, at least to me. As I learned long ago, there’s the reason you give and then there’s the real reason.

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January 2023 ▶ rekabr52

bbgun06

It’s not uncommon to keep flying military aircraft for training purposes. Sometimes the aircraft are transferred to civilian contractors who operate them. It’s a good way to get more use out of expensive assets, while training current pilots against a wider range of aircraft.

January 2023 ▶ luckyfivetwo

Roger_Mullins

Famous statement “Be as wise as serpents, but harmless as doves”. Paraphrased for the new millennium, “Outsmart the commies but don’t be like them”. Thank you Jesus.

January 2023 ▶ rekabr52

lstencel

It’s also about the insane military budget process, reliability of ongoing congressional budget support, the need for modernization of equipment and the missions assigned. In other words, it’s a juggling act. Taking these airplanes off the active role and putting them into another budget compartment is akin to playing a shell game. The airplanes thusly kept ‘active’ will still be available for use IF the need arises. Meanwhile, the reason given to keep them maintained can be as stated here. The alternative is to stash them in Tucson. This is a far better way to do it and fits your postulation, Richard.

I wouldn’t at all be surprised if a few of these airplanes didn’t suddenly get pressed into service as an alternative to using a higher value asset like the F-22. OR … suddenly show up as a QF-117 but not for target practice. I have some other ideas, too. Let’s just see.

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January 2023 ▶ rekabr52

grounded

Unlimited budgets, no real enemies, private contractors all lobbying the gov.

January 2023 ▶ lstencel

lstencel

See:
msn.com/en-us/travel/news/b-21-raider-stealth-bomber-could-cost-be-a-problem/ar-AA16b0CR?

THIS asset is more important just now so juggling the budget source for the F-117A is what’s going on … as I already said.