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May 2023

Raf

Who’s gonna know!

May 2023

Anderson_Dufty

Ah, what a challenge to determine who’s smoke and mirrors are real smoke and mirrors.

May 2023

manarii

The aircraft are still spewing out carbon dioxide regardless of this slight of hand trick.

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May 2023

jimhanson

Glad to have lived in an era when we were able to enjoy high performance vehicles and aircraft.

Agree—“carbon offsets “ are merely “feel-good virtue signaling”. The @sicial warriors” won’t be happy until we go back to transportation by animals—and if they really studied what that was like—they would see what REAL pollution was—city streets filled with barnyard pollution—and people used wood and coal for heat and transportation. Look at early photos of the early cities—what we have today is vastly better than the smoke, filth, and animal waste. In all probability, aircraft emissions are probably BETTER for the environment today than the emissions from coal and animal waste.

While we should all strive for minimal pollution—the Earth has been remarkably resilient. Do what we can—but “perfection is the enemy of the Good.”

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May 2023

gliders

So the people who came up with and embraced the “carbon offset” paradigm admit it can be gamed? Wow. Nobody saw that coming.

May 2023

Arthur_Foyt

If climate alarmists win, they lose.
The offset charades can finally be proven beyond reasonable doubt to be a sham. Go for it, California.

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May 2023

NewUserName

Funny, saw a claim the other day that the State of California is itself cheating on its own energy source figures by ignoring the sources of its energy imports.

One could easily get the impression that the real point of climate policies has less to do with saving the world and more to do with jobs and money for people who can’t be bothered to do productive jobs or get out of the way.

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May 2023 ▶ Arthur_Foyt

Skypark

Battle of the BS-ers.

May 2023 ▶ NewUserName

Arthur_Foyt

Imagine the panic when there is no crisis.

May 2023 ▶ NewUserName

charral

Wasn’t the evil carbon in the fuel once removed from the environment by the plants that ended up in the fuel tanks?

May 2023

dcmarotta

Greta would be proud.

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May 2023 ▶ manarii

cpparks66

And plants and trees are LOVING it.

May 2023 ▶ jimhanson

cpparks66

Well said.

May 2023

jbmcnamee

The article doesn’t say whether the suit was brought by the state of California or whether it was some group using the California courts. If the latter, which I suspect, what grounds are they using for the suit? They would have to prove that they were harmed by Delta’s business activities, and then that those activities were actually negligent. And what damages are they pursuing? This whole thing sounds like some environmental group looking for some publicity - and money. It will be tough to prove that Delta’s actions are fraudulent and that anyone is actually harmed by those actions - even in a California court.

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May 2023 ▶ jbmcnamee

NewUserName

California created a lawyer friendly system for environmental law that encourages these sorts of suits and makes them profitable. There used to be a lot of activity in Texas with consumer suits that finally got quashed, but I’m wondering when the Texas legislature won’t rise up and unleash the hounds to go after the main industries of California and New York in reprisal for the constant attacks on the petroleum industry.

May 2023 ▶ dcmarotta

bserra

Please, stop talking of that “girl” (unfortunately diagnosed with “Asperger’s syndrome, as well as obsessive-compulsive disorder and selective mutism”) that only repeats what someone or some organizations with unknown intensions tell her to say.
We must do whatever can be done, and in an easy way, to have a better Earth, but making references to that “girl” doesn’t do nothing for that matter.

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June 2023 ▶ bserra

Arthur_Foyt

She is the poster child for disingenuous press releases on “carbon”. It does matter and I hope Delta uses her as an example to illustrate that EVERYONE overstates the “good” of what they are doing.