Arthur_Foyt
Since LA, SF, and NY have been such criminally bad stewards of everything on their street level, their “plan” is to now fill the city skies with incessant buzzing? All I can think of is a vision of hell on Earth.
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Since LA, SF, and NY have been such criminally bad stewards of everything on their street level, their “plan” is to now fill the city skies with incessant buzzing? All I can think of is a vision of hell on Earth.
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In those cities, those eVTOL’s would just be targets by those criminally bad stewards!
So … you’re on a Delta flight leaving LAX for points not important but you live in Hollyweird and need to get to LAX. SO WHAT … you order up a Joby and it lands where … in the street in front of your house in the hills, or in the parking lot of the nearby WalMart or … just where? Maybe you’re on the 405 and are late for a Delta flight so you order up a Joby and it lands next to your car and wisks you away? And the claim that the service is a “seamless, zero emission short range journey” is ridiculous AND laughable. This incessant preoccupation with ‘green’ everything electric vertical air movement is now getting out of hand.
The people running Delta have lost their minds IMHO. And soon … $60M.
Oh, but notice they are tinkering with the language. It is now “zero operating emission”. The key word “operating” lets them continue the lie. No stink here, where’s my halo?
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If you fly Delta, you are paying for this nonsense. It appears though that the honeymoon with eVTOL is over. Maybe hydrogen also. Next to tank will be SAF, as more people realize we lack food, not fossil fuels. The horrible ethanol quotas in the US consume 40% of our immense corn crop, increasing the cost of human food and livestock feed. More evidence that everything the government touches leads to less choice and higher costs.
NYC. You can’t even find a parking spot for a car. Do you wait outside your highrise watching the thing hover until a driver leaves so it can land?
Suburbs. You could have the device dispatched with instructions to land in your yard, and get all the leaves raked … uhhh… sent somewhere else… in the process. It might even clean out your gutters. So much for the misconception that these gizmos are impractical.
I don’t get it. Home service? As someone mentioned, exactly where does it land? It’s a fairly big machine. In the street? Would it not block traffic? Powerlines, trees, rotors sticking out in all directions. Would a city permit this? It looks like a helicopter could already do this. Maybe I totally misunderstand.
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With all those propellers can you just imagine multiple bird strikes? More electric nonsense.
I believe they got their certificate using a Cirrus SR22. They hope to add the Joby later. This allows them to gain the 135 using a conventional aircraft now possible to claim the first to have the 135 even though the Joby aircraft isnt on it. It would though save time later.
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roger, you nailed it.
If all current helicopters are not being used for this right now, then adding a battery won’t change anything.
It would be really informative if these parties would provide a technical explanation and supporting data regarding how, when, and why they are going to do this. As a stockholder, I demand to see the support data that justifies this expenditure of substantial corporate (shareholder) funds. There has to be some detailed documentation of how they are going to surmount all the issues as raised above, that is assuming the craft will ever be produced and certified in the first place. We can muse on AvWeb about this stuff but there has to be accountability to the bottom line at Delta or any other airline or participant. This is not private venture capital.
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WOW! TOUGH CROWD! But then, the readers of AvWeb are the realists. File this story under “dreamers and fiction.” I would find it hard to believe ANYTHING Delta announced after this.
What NEXT–“TELEPORTATION?”
Does the term “Non compos mentis” have any special meaning for the supporters of these comic-book believers of these wild schemes?
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Pure escapist fantasy. I can’t even imagine how one might do this on a flight simulator! I know for sure that 1) my back yard is not big enough; 2) my street has too many trees, and 3) my alley is too narrow, not to mention the electrical poles and wires. Maybe the darn thing could sort of hover and lower a bosun’s chair on a winch? Wouldn’t the prop wash, not to mention inclement and/or really cold weather, sort of limit this? But hey!, our “information age” has flooded the data market with so much unvetted malarkey that rational choices are being hijacked all over the world. Somewhere, the old saw, “You can fool all of the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time” has been eroded into “you can fool more people than you can’t–all of the time.”
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Noticed that too.
I watched both BlackFly flights at Airventure this summer. Indeed, it did get aloft but it sure seemed like it was like balancing a bowling ball on the head of a pin. THIS thing would be no different.
Add four fanjets and they’ll have six-a-turnin’ and four a-burnin’.
When this dream was first proposed, it was “City Center to City Center” transport. Then it was “Park here and take this from near your home to the airport.” This is “A solution in search of a problem.”
What is never mentioned is that after your RETURN airline flight, you’ll have to take one of these back to the “vertiport”. Imagine doing that late at night–in bad weather–with large suitcases. Easier to just drive to the airport.
Did you write to Delta with your demands?
You are correct. As Avweb previously reported, Joby has a Cirrus on its 135 certificate. That doesn’t mean anything about its electric helicopter.
“Beam me up, Scotty”.
How do I charter a Joby Air Cirrus SR22?
They announced receiving an FAA Part 135 Air Taxi Certificate nearly 6 months ago:
https://www.avweb.com/recent-updates/evtols-urban-mobility/joby-receives-part-135-certificate/
You would figure Joby would want a little Air Taxi experience before they start flying eVTOLs all over the city in 2024? Maybe they mean Q4 of 2024?
Have you rode aboard an airliner out of KSNA? What a ridiculous procedure those pilots have to undergo to keep the homeowners happy. I flew out of that field one time, and I just kept the Cardinal RG at full power during the climb. Those folks can eat my dust…
As a $JOBY shareholder I approve of the investment. We found a JOBY installation with full charging capability, maintenance area and full-sized sim trainer at KSGH last summer. If $JOBY does nothing other than move passengers from small regional and county airports to major hubs, transports critical patients to hospitals and some aerial surveillance or similar it will likely be a screaming success. That said, I have a cleared space in my driveway for a $JOBY to land and take me directly to my hangar. Consider picking up a few shares $JOBY before it gets away from you. Obvious $TSLA acquisition target.