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October 2022

johnbpatson

Whole can of worms to open.
There are not many former fighter pilots prepared to fly civilian airlines, (even if they could, some have difficulty with the whole ATP thing, especially paying for it.)
In France the civil defence relies on ex military helicopter pilots, but they are sometimes unhappy at being paid the same as the nurses they fly. If they leave, the queue to take their place stretches round the block.
Le Figaro spoke to one pilot who had been approached, and he said he was promised a seat in a J11, the Chinese rip-off of the Sukhoi 29, eventually he refused, but videos circulate on-line of another Frenchman after crash of a J10 with his student.
For the army the whole mercenary trip pretty much dried up with changes to the law and a few high-profile trails, even if the people concerned tried to spin it as working to spread democracy and fluffy kittens through the world.
My guess is that it will not stop until there are a few pilots in the dock in high profile trials, but surprise, surprise, it is the last things the air forces involved (who know exactly what is going on) want.
Like the Vatican in sex cases, they carry on as if it never happens.

October 2022

granburyaircraftserv

There is no loyalty left in this world.

October 2022

gregpwyatt

and …don’t forget about the cut to the “Big Guy” per formal Naval Officer and Biden business partner Tony Bobulinski

October 2022

NewUserName

Wait a minute…

We don’t sell western aircraft to the Ukrainians because they cannot fly them.

We have pilots who are willing to change countries for a job.

Hmmmmm…

October 2022

Arthur_Foyt

Lest we forget, the US military has been training foreign pilots at the 81st Fighter Squadron at Moody AFB Georgia, the 6th Special Operations Squadron and 711th Special Operations Squadron at Duke Airfield, Florida. Heck, take a guess at how many foreign pilot overall have trained in the USA even after September 11th, 2001?

Point being is that this goes on all the time in the USA so why would the UK suddenly be “shocked” by their people also training foreign pilots?

October 2022

dnickerson80h

Another can of worms… Are there pilots who have been driven out of their respective air forces for not complying with covid mandates, who just want to continue to fly fighter jets and will do so for whomever gives them the opportunity?

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October 2022

FlyerDon

You lost me with your first sentence.

October 2022

J_Earnie

Sounds fairly lucrative. Where can an experienced fighter pilot get an application? Asking for a friend.

Brits in particular, have long provided “mercenary” pilots to certain middle eastern countries.

October 2022 ▶ dnickerson80h

jethro442

Failure to obey orders is pretty serious. If a serviceman won’t obey orders to get a shot, what other orders might he decide to not obey? With Navy Corpsman on either side of me, injecting God only knows what into my arms, it never crossed my mind to think that I could refuse one, to get out of active duty.

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October 2022 ▶ jethro442

NewUserName

That’s pretty simplistic. We now know that much of the justification for the mandates was false, and it looks like the US government knew that it likely was beforehand and suppressed it. Given that there are known side effects now, and LOTS of concern over more to be found, it turns out the order to get the shot was pretty much illegal.

Since we have soldiers on partial disability now from shots already, maybe it’s time we put these policies under more scrutiny?