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February 2023

Raf

Life is an eternal tug-of-war where each side needs each other. Shoot it down!

February 2023

m11

“…taking it out with a Sidewinder missile…”
Why spend a few bucks on cannon shells when you can use a US$400k missile?

February 2023

alex_rudy

It turns out punching 20 mm holes into a low pressure balloon the size of an apartment building isn’t very effective. It just slowly deflates and descends over days. Almost like the USAF thought this through before choosing their weapon.

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February 2023 ▶ alex_rudy

Hoser

Turns the air pressure at altitude would take days to deflate the balloon. This article says in 1998 the Canadian Air Force shot up a balloon and it remained inflated.
https://theweek.com/us-military/1021008/why-the-us-used-missiles-not-cheap-bullets-to-shoot-down-chinese-balloon-3

February 2023

sjjesus21

Why did they use the most expensive (by hour) aircraft in the arsenal to shoot down these ballons?

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February 2023

granburyaircraftserv

Just keep shooting them down, especially over ope waters, China wont know what happened and eventually they will stop.

February 2023 ▶ sjjesus21

dougb450

Oh I dunno, perhaps a good opportunity for flight training, logging time, playing with missiles and targets?

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February 2023 ▶ alex_rudy

dougb450

I read somewhere that the last time they tried to shoot down a balloon, they riddled it full of holes and it just kept floating on by. So yes, they called upon past experience.

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February 2023 ▶ sjjesus21

carguychris

Because the F-22 looks awesome; ask Hollywood directors! Besides, the USAF needs some way to justify continued F-22 operations to Congress.

February 2023

carguychris

They flew a U-2 over this thing? Can the USAF hang a really, really long bungee cord from it and use a C-130 to tow it to Edwards?

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February 2023 ▶ sjjesus21

andy.goldstein

Because it’s the only fighter that can get up to FL600!

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February 2023

Richard_G

Someone get grandpa and his shotgun. The aliens are back.

February 2023 ▶ carguychris

Richard_G

The U-2 can slow down to around 120 at lower altitudes, like 3000ft. But at altitude it is moving at a pretty good clip.
C130 would never make it up to 60,000 ft. That is the normal cruise altitude of the U-2. NASA802 has been training out of Dobins AFB, located just north of Atlanta. It can fly a great distance without refueling and hang out for a while. You can follow its ‘training’ tracks on FlightAware.

February 2023 ▶ andy.goldstein

davef

It is my understanding that an F-15 can operate up to 64K, and zoom climb to maybe 98K. Could be wrong.

February 2023 ▶ andy.goldstein

f4gary

Flying that high requires a pressure suit, or at least it used to.

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February 2023

maule

I love the picture. Epic selfie

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February 2023 ▶ f4gary

pilotmww

Still does. Look at the picture of the U2 over the balloon. The pilot is wearing a pressure suit helmet.

February 2023

KlausM

Every other article has been about ‘DRONES’ and how great they are. Why don’t they create a high altitude Drone that captures and retrieves balloons in working order :question:

I’ll bet one of those Pico Balloon clubs can do for less then $400,000.00 ?

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February 2023 ▶ dougb450

Raf

…and sh*t.

February 2023 ▶ dougb450

maule

Needs more holes

February 2023 ▶ KlausM

Richard_G

Balloon wars… cool idea. Send up our own to latch onto the unidentified ones.

February 2023

mjkobb

It would have been nice to have links to the photos.

February 2023

Jim_Kabrajee

Seen over Hawaii huh?

Well I beginning to think this is a big Hullaballon about nuthin.

February 2023

vmf223

Now the f-22 pilot can paint a balloon beneath his canopy. lol

February 2023

burmanf

What is that thing on the left of the picture. Wing mirror?

February 2023 ▶ maule

yokon965

Getting the U-2 directly between the balloon and the sun – epic indeed!
Here’s a higher-res version of the photo (link below). This should at least end up in canvas on the squadron’s break room wall.
https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/rockcms/2023-02/230223-f16-balloon-mb-0857-242c94.jpg

February 2023 ▶ alex_rudy

charral

Seems either me could have “buzzed” any of the balloons and let wake turbulence do its thing. A 777, even clean, should still do the job, paint the balloon on it’s door. Over land, give the civil air patrol something to search for.

If wake turbulence doesn’t work, clip the envelope with a wingtip. It’s just thin fabric…

February 2023

charral

Seems to me could have “buzzed” any of the balloons and let wake turbulence do its thing. A 777, even clean, should still do the job, paint the balloon on it’s door. Over land, give the civil air patrol something to search for.

If wake turbulence doesn’t work, clip the envelope with a wingtip. It’s just thin fabric…

February 2023

rollin

So many “why don’t they just …” suggestions.
Like this is Huffpost of something.