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September 4

kent.misegades

They should call the fuel “VS” for Virtue Signaling. There is no other possible reason for wanting to use this expensive fuel made from food. AVFuel ought to be distributing inexpensive, lead-free Mogas instead, which makes great business sense. Instead, it and the other major Avgas suppliers have a history of threatening airports who try to add Mogas, making wild claims about Mogas’ legality and safety, and that they will stop delivering Avgas and Jet-A if the airport adds Mogas.

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September 4 ▶ kent.misegades

Arthur_Foyt

How does 6.5 metric tons of SAF in each truckload provide a 19-metric-ton reduction in carbon emissions?

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September 4 ▶ Arthur_Foyt

FlyerDon

Wouldn’t 8000 gallons of jet fuel be about 24 metric tons?

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September 4 ▶ FlyerDon

Arthur_Foyt

The article says the 8,000 contains only 30% SAF.
I think that works out to between 6.5 to 7 metric tons.
To say it within the chat guideline rules, let’s just say that their claims are “optimistic”.

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September 4

Mikko_Hamunen

No wonder no one asks how much this all costs? A few years ago, NESTE in Finland answered my question that SAF was then approx. 2.5 times more expensive than Jet-A.
When reason finally wins and it is understood that the whole CO2 fear is completely unfounded, then the question is asked why the western industrialized countries voluntarily lowered their standard of living compared to, for example, China.
One kg of pure carbon C produces more than 3.5 kg of CO2 because oxygen atoms O weigh that much more than carbon atoms. Hence the confusion about weights.

September 4 ▶ Arthur_Foyt

FlyerDon

I see where you are getting your numbers from but I think the savings they are claiming refers to the blend and not the concentration of SAF. I’m sure if it were 100% SAF they would claim an even higher benefit.

September 4

serge

I find it hard to believe that Neste is using only used cooking oil and animal fats to produce its stated quantities of SAF. I’m almost certain that the feedstock is being supplemented with significant amounts of edible oils.

September 4

LetMeFly17

AvFuel has an agreement with GAMI to distribute G100UL. When will they honor THAT agreement?

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September 4 ▶ LetMeFly17

jimhanson73

I’ll be sure to avoid AvFlight–“virtue signaling” with SAF instead of helping the ONE COMPANY THAT IS TRYING TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE AND SAFE FUELS puts them on my “DO NOT GO THERE!” LIST!

September 5

Ehsif727

So what comes out of the exhaust with this SAF fuel is exactly the same as with comes out of the exhaust with normal fuel. Can we just face up to the fact that this is nothing but Greenwashing.