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November 2022

500ks

The much-hyped SLS finally takes flight!
And the official coverage was… disappointing.
In 2022, there are many rocket companies that livestream onboard footage of launches (and in some cases landings).
The pad cameras were nice enough.
But no on-board footage until after solar array deployment?
Maybe they’d need another billion and 2 years to develop that capability.

November 2022

SeaKite.batteries

Is it possible that the “mannequins” were the ones who decided that there was a need for this huge expenditure?

November 2022

graeme

Those commentators and launch controllers sure love the sound of their own voices. Makes me yearn for the days of Gemini and Apollo minimalism. If it needed saying - it was said. If it didn’t - then you watched and waited.

They should have Gene Kranz come and talk to them. Saw him compress Gemini and Apollo (up to 13) into a 1 hour talk. He hit every salient point and missed nothing of significance. Tour De Force!

As to the SLS - we need the heavy lift if we are going there. Falcon will not do it. Exploration - like R&D - costs money with no guarantee of return.

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November 2022 ▶ graeme

rpstrong

Horses for courses. No, Falcon isn’t going to do it, but SpaceX’s very-soon-to-be-flown Super Heavy has about double the thrust of the SLS.

So yes, we need heavy lift, No, we don’t need the SLS.

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November 2022 ▶ graeme

bserra

You’re are perfectly right, Mr. Graeme S…

November 2022 ▶ rpstrong

bserra

I have the greatest doubts on Your opinion, Rush S.

November 2022

Butch_Gilbert

Artemis cost $4 Billion per launch, the whole program, $93 Billion!!! Oh, and by the way, none of the Artemis hardware is reusable.

This is stupid money and nobody is pushing back on the expenditures.

What’s the goal? What’s the return on the dollar? What are we bringing back that’s of any value? NADA.

NASA is spending close to a 1/10th of a trillion dollars - for what?

Totally insane.

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November 2022

stan1

At $4 Billion per launch, you could buy 40 SpaceX Falcon9 missions, assuming no discount for volume and using only “virgin” launchers.
And Armetis still requires two SpaceX Starship launches for landing on the moon. Starship has more than enough lifting capability to do the whole mission, without the SLS/Armetis stack. Probably will be safer, those Thiokol roman candles do not exactly have either a great record or a really “green” exhaust. And the total cost of the Starship landers is just over $2.1 Billion.
I’m going to guess that the first human to get to the moon this century may indeed ride the entire way on a Starship. Could be a “test” of the system, and Elon will make the first “tweet” from the surface of another “planet.”
Yes, SLS provides lots of jobs to lots of people in lots of states, of the tech is not exactly modern, it’s all Space Shuttle hardware repurposed, so why invest on tech that’s older than most of the people who will be flying it?
If part of the goal is to advance the state of the art, I’m wondering where the SLS is going to make a worthwhile contribution?

November 2022 ▶ Butch_Gilbert

stan1

930 “virgin” Falcon 9 launches!