September 2022
I understand the need but see longer run issues. Pilots going through the normal system are exposed to a lot of variability and information about the state of the sector before they seek out jobs in the big carriers. They have a breadth of experience it would be hard to replicate in a program like this. Especially if bean counters are running the show instead of pilots. And any cultural safety issues seem more likely to be perpetuated.
September 2022
Ho hum, they do not say if it will be an in-house training school or farmed out. Most Air France pilots come from the state civil aviation pilot school, maybe it is a special class in there – usually there are around 40 places a year for 2,000 candidates.
Lets hope they do better than the Air France trained team who were on the A447 where the young pilot panicked and held the stick full back in the stall till it was too late… He came through Air France ranks from the start, I seem to remember.
September 2022
Nice program, but I dream of a day when we stop separating people into boxes by their surface appearance.
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September 2022
While Lufthansa also has an outstanding AB Intio training program, some say equivalent to a military training, it’s still that.
Just training.
There’s something to be said about the time consuming traditional “working your way up the ladder” while you work and pay for it. Flying your way up the sh!ty and the gritty eliminates those that don’t have the fortitude to put up with blowing a jug in a light single, runaway prop on a light twin, arguing with a management stooge over weight, routes, fuel loads, crappy weather, unexpected ice, difficult crew members and passengers in small planes, etc …
It seems ordinary life events also naturally weed out those that don’t have the perserverence and emotional stability to overcome all the life issues that coincide (illness, divorce, grief, financial instability, losing a job, sex re-assignment, gender choice etc …) with the pursuit of this career, not exclusive to this career of course.
On a good day this is the best job to get and the hardest to keep.
Who’s to say Lubitz of Germanwings infamy might have called it a day, and dropped the “dream” had he not had the “go to the head of the line” benefit of Ab Initio?
September 2022
Unfortunately, there is no perfect way to train pilots for the airlines. The “traditional” way sounds romantic, but it has so many variables that it is basically a random process. A structured Ab Initio pathway should have better results if the proper people are in charge of the curriculum and can weed out underperforming students without regard to such sensitive issues as sex or ethnic background. It also depends on how the individual learns. Some people learn by doing, others by reading instruction manuals. Unless the program has the flexibility to accommodate those differences, the structured program will produce a bunch of well trained robots, rather than well-rounded pilots.
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September 2022
I could not find out where this training would be. Is it in America or oversees?
September 2022
▶ jbmcnamee
Couldn’t agree more John that it’s our job to teach the way they learn. Sex and ethnic background have always been easy fodder for cheap jokes so I apologize if I came off that way as sexist, racist, or misogynistic.
Although in 1988, CFI Miss (ex) Indiana asked me for refresher spin training, and I can still smell the shampoo of that blonde hair flying around the cockpit. CFI’s don’t get many days like that.
I guess you take the good days with the rest or them.
September 2022
▶ Arthur_Foyt
And I dream of a day when a career like this is truly accessible to all with the interest and capacity. Cheers to programs like this that help to bridge that gap.
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September 2022
▶ jbrewster7453
It IS accessible and IS open to everyone.
All it takes is an INDIVIDUAL is to want it.
There is no “gap” because it’s open to all.
October 2022
Nope, like a doctor trained as an EMT.